Dr Dengar wrote:

Maybe there are more collectors having a "Bubble Fett" in their collection?

Please share.

My #2 coo fett has the bubbles on the leg and it has white spots on the grey plastic[img][/img]
and bubbles on the wrist under the yellow paint[img][/img]
The paintjob on this figure is very sloppy the, orange looks almost fingerpainted , and you can see the orange fading into yellow in some places where the paint has a thinner coat.

Bubble Fett I can't wait for some ebay seller to try & sell this as super rare ( just like a black Wampa )

My opinion is these examples are not POCH, or PBP or ...... just anomolies that can be found in any figure BUT I have the exact same pair as Sulaiman:





this also exhibits the same white degredation as orangpendek's example


I also noticed this same groove in the rocket pack

The orange vs yellow paint I still think is thinner application

Nice James, we both have the same Fett.
Guess this version will turn up on ebay soon. Let's wait and see

With the white spots & bubbles we can call it the Toltoys/POCH super rare variant- it's worth millions I tell ya

Thanks Orangpendek and AJ for sharing your "Bubble Fett"pics. Big + earned!

So these bubbles are sometimes present on random spots on the limbs?

And are soemhow linked with COO #2?

These bubbles have no link with the factory (Spain, Far East) producing these Fetts?

Questions but no asnwers yet.


More Bubble Fetts around?

Here is my Bubble Fett. I bought him in the UK.

Hi Patrick, thanks for sharing those pics.

+ on your way.

We have seen pics of different Bubble Fetts in the past week. The chance that they all have a Spanish origin is very small.

So my best guess at the moment is that these bubbles are not a POCH characteristic.
As AJ already mentioned, these small bubbles just seem to occur sometimes on random places on the limbs. Maybe it has something to do with the process conditions when the limbs were cast? (type of plastic used, cooling off too slow/fast?,....)

Sofar the bubbles seem to be linked with COO #2, I have no clue why? :scratch:

Any other thoughts?



Anyway, we probably will have to look for other traits (meltmarks, painting, welding cracks) when looking for a POCH Boba fett. To be continued....

To be honest:

I never saw bubbles in the plastic on any POCH figure!

What I personally described in my guide as a charateristic are bubbles in the paint!

http://swspaceclub.com/wbobafett/poch/characteristics/



In generell bubbles in the plastic can be from a damaged/not cleaned mold or sth went wrong while injection. So far I never noticed this problem on Poch figures!

Hey Wolff,

I was aware that bubbles in the paint are a specific POCH charactersitic (thanks to your guide ).

I was just wondering whether it could be extended to bubbles in the plastic as well. Apparently not.

Would be great to have pics of a POCH Fett....

Dr Dengar wrote:

Would be great to have pics of a POCH Fett....

I agree....(means I have non...sorry)

wbobafett wrote:

To be honest:

I never saw bubbles in the plastic on any POCH figure!

What I personally described in my guide as a charateristic are bubbles in the paint!

http://swspaceclub.com/wbobafett/poch/characteristics/



In generell bubbles in the plastic can be from a damaged/not cleaned mold or sth went wrong while injection. So far I never noticed this problem on Poch figures!

I guess you have to see more Poch figures

-Poch 3po, two different figures with the exact bubbles on head, they also have melt marks on back

a close up...


-One of my Poch IG minor variant, melt mark and bubbles on plastic...


Its difficult to see a Poch variant which contain most of the Poch carasteristics but here you are one:
-Poch AT-AT driver red emblems variant with melt mark on right leg(as usual on the Poch Ben),Bubbles on white paint...



...and bubbles on plastic...



-Poch Han Solo, melt marks and bubbles on plastic





i have many more of those examples...

The bubbles on the paint and in the plastic ARE NOT a Poch exclusive caracteristic IMHO, BUT are very usual.

you think the ones on 3PO are in the plastic?? I have noticed same bubbles on other chromed figures or parts, but never thought its from the plastic :scratch: :scratch:


and forgot the ATAT driver....yeah...even PBP version has those often :/

Yeah Wolff, i think that the 3po bubbles are on the plastic, i think is near to imposdible that the same bubbles (due to bad paint job) were loccated in the same place in 2,3 or more figures which is the case, there are bubbles also on some poch death squad commanders If my memory serve me Well...

Dr Dengar wrote:

We have seen pics of different Bubble Fetts in the past week. The chance that they all have a Spanish origin is very small.

So my best guess at the moment is that these bubbles are not a POCH characteristic.
As AJ already mentioned, these small bubbles just seem to occur sometimes on random places on the limbs. Maybe it has something to do with the process conditions when the limbs were cast? (type of plastic used, cooling off too slow/fast?,....)

Sofar the bubbles seem to be linked with COO #2, I have no clue why? :scratch:

Any other thoughts?



Anyway, we probably will have to look for other traits (meltmarks, painting, welding cracks) when looking for a POCH Boba fett. To be continued....

In the injection molding process bubbles form when the injection temperature is too high, when there's too much moisture in the material or when the cooling rate isn't uniform .
Melt marks or "ejector marks" can appear when the ejection force is set too high or by removing the part from the mold before it has properly cooled down. Dropping it on a surface while still hot or using a tool to remove the part from the mold will leave a mark.
Looks like where ever the bubble fett was produced they had some problems finding the correct setting for their injection molding machine.
This is not the only figure where production flaws match up with a certain coo, to this day every discolored jawa i have seen has a#1 or #2 coo and i can only find them in 2 countries.
I got my fett from a seller in holland, crealkilla and pattejan got theirs in the Uk and Dr. D found his in Spain, has anybody got an example from the US or is this a strictly european production flaw?

javiswspain wrote:

Yeah Wolff, i think that the 3po bubbles are on the plastic, i think is near to imposdible that the same bubbles (due to bad paint job) were loccated in the same place in 2,3 or more figures which is the case......

hmmm..I see...totally makes sense!

On the 3PO we can see (because the bubbles are really in the same place) that this is a steel-mold problem. If it would be from injection it would be in random places. So (at least sometimes) it is from the steel-mold (cheap copy??)

Below some pics of a Bossk figure which I bought from Spain recently, together with a Kenner figure for comparison.
Left: Kenner figure (COO#2). Right: Figure from Spain (COO #1).










Typical for this figure:

• COO#1
  
• Greenish limbs (not so green as the POCH Bossk BTW). I am 99% sure this is because of discolouration, as Bossk's jumpsuit changed to a very pale yellow when comparing the limbs to the body.
  
• Small chest cross
  
• Typical PBP smell

Might this be a figure which was produced in Spain?

Or maybe it was just distributed in Spain? :scratch:
I have recently seen the same discoloured figure in a Spanish childhood collection. See pic below.
The guy told me this was the Bossk figure which he obtained with a PBP mail away. (Dengar/Bossk mail away).



Any thoughts?

Below some pics of a 3-line C-3PO figure which I bought from Spain recently.













You can obviously see signs of bad sonic welding. The figure also has small bubbles on the head, though a bit different pattern compared to Javi's C-3POs.
I checked briefly for any melt marks but haven't found any sofar. But I have to admit it is difficult to spot them on such a shiny golden background.


Compared to a Kenner 3-line C-3PO (left), this figure from Spain clearly has a 'warmer', more reddish gold paint.
I have another figure from Spain with the same characteristics, but could not find him this afternoon for making comparison pics.





Just wondering, are we looking at a POCH C-3PO here? :scratch:

Same COO, same apperance (greenish limbs, pale yellow jumpsuit on the limbs), also from Spain.

Great pics., StarWizz! Thx!

Who has the same type of Bossk in his collection?

And from where?

Every brown headed Bossk with this coo has the same limbs

wbobafett wrote:

Every brown headed Bossk with this coo has the same limbs

OK that is good to know. Thanks!

Problem is that I don't have any other COO#1 in my collection to compare to.

AJ, could you check your Bossk COO#1 pls?
The head looks brown. How about the limbs? Greenish and pale yellow like my and StarWizz' Bossk? I am not sure when looking at the pic.

aussiejames wrote:

#1 , #2, #3, #4, #5

Taken from: http://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t4177-figure-of-the-week-thread-bossk

#1, 2x #2s & #3

#1- orange/brown head
#2s green heads- different coloured limbs & size of chest cross
#3 - orange head, faded limbs


different limbs on one figure

Thanks for making a new pic, AJ!

To me it seems your COO#1 has faded limbs as well, like the three Bossks figures which were obtained from Spain. Though in your figure, the fading is maybe less pronounced and the chest cross is bigger.

What do you think? Is it the same figure?

If so and supposing your figure did not come from Spain, this figure might just have been imported by PBP (like for instance the Taiwan Madine or ERG), explaining why it pops up in Spain as well.

This is my first post, so first of all hello to everyone.
I´m from Spain. Though I'm not focused on collecting figures variations I have a nice POCH/PBP figures collection.
Here you have a photo of two of them. Luke Skywalker and Leia. The Luke figure is one of my favourites.
Hope you enjoy.