Hi guys I found this Kenobi in a lot.

Is this a Lili Ledy coo on this figure ? and is the figure a Lili Ledy ?

Hey Marco,

A few points Id like to add:

1. The raised bar LL 3pos are myth! They do not exist!

2. The white material is correct!!

3. There is ONLY 2 coos on true LL 3po: #3 and #6!

4. BOTH have Kenner pendants! (#6 is one of the hardest "Kenner" figures to find!!)

5. Forget about the PISA...mine both have legs that are equally long!!


Also: Ben Kenobi:

1. There is two shlightly different no coos on LL Ben Kenobi!

2. BOTH have a total different Kenner coo pendant!

Again..only the MIM coos are unique to LL!! Thats a rule which is for 100%.

Just saw that this is still wrong on the front page!

wbobafett wrote:

Also: Ben Kenobi:

1. There is two shlightly different no coos on LL Ben Kenobi!

2. BOTH have a total different Kenner coo pendant!

Again..only the MIM coos are unique to LL!! Thats a rule which is for 100%.

Just saw that this is still wrong on the front page!

Hi mate, for me it looks like the coo no. 7 in the coo guide.

Is that coo not a lili ledy ?

wbobafett wrote:

Hey Marco,

A few points Id like to add:

1. The raised bar LL 3pos are myth! They do not exist!

2. The white material is correct!!

3. There is ONLY 2 coos on true LL 3po: #3 and #6!

4. BOTH have Kenner pendants! (#6 is one of the hardest "Kenner" figures to find!!)

5. Forget about the PISA...mine both have legs that are equally long!!

YES!! Finally some decent feedback on the RL 3PO, to help improving his entry. Thanks Wolff!!

To add: I have only seen #3 and #5 for the RL C3PO as well. (not #6 BTW, I made the same mistake, but there is no COO #6 in your guide )

However in the thread below, a raised bar LL C-3PO (COO #1) is discussed. So this figure might not be a Ledy in that case?

http://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t977p15-ledy-rem-limbs-c-3po?highlight=ledy

Anyone has a raised bar LL C-3PO? Pls check the end of the joints (are they grey/white?) and post your results here.


OK so the PISA stance is not a common thing, just a bit deformed left leg which slipped through quality control and ended up on my C-3PO? Pity as it would have been a nice LL trait to make an easy distinction between a Kenner figure.

I will update the entry with the new info soon!

wbobafett wrote:

Also: Ben Kenobi:

1. There is two shlightly different no coos on LL Ben Kenobi!

2. BOTH have a total different Kenner coo pendant!

Again..only the MIM coos are unique to LL!! Thats a rule which is for 100%.

Just saw that this is still wrong on the front page!

Hmm you are right why is Ben still among the MIM figures on the front page?? He doesn't have an unique COO, he was never carded on a MIM card.
He must have been slipped through this thread’s quality control.
EDIT: Changed that now, mate!!


BTW: How about the LL Darth Vader. Does his COO have a Kenner counterpart? I am still not sure. :scratch:

pomse2001 wrote:

Hi mate, for me it looks like the coo no. 7 in the coo guide.

Is that coo not a lili ledy ?

Lars: It is, but it is not unique for Ledy, as there are also Kenner figures sharing the same COO, as indicated by Wolff. I added this info to Ben's entry now BTW.

I would focus on the paint applications on the head now. Does the head look like a Ledy Ben?

Wolff: If the COO is not unique for Ben, I can imagine the other mould differences (extended finger and foot) are probably not unique Ledy traits as well?

Dr Dengar wrote:

To add: I have only seen #3 and #5 for the RL C3PO as well. (not #6 BTW, I made the same mistake, but there is no COO #6 in your guide )

What did I wrote .... :nailbiting: ...yeah..its for sure #5 after THIS coo picture.....sorry!

The Kenner Ben has extended finger and the boot you described . Of course...its the same steel mold.....although I did double check it!

even worse...noticed one of my LL Bens has the finger cut off! By factory?? Seems like...damn!!

I had a raised bar LL 3po too and fell for it! But I dont believe in this one anymore! It doesnt exists IMO! Raised bar is invented by sellers to make some quick cash!!

If you have doubts: ever saw a raised bar with original net??? Me not..only 3 and 5!

Hi Marco, I think my new ben looks like the Lili Ledy.

What do you think ?

Kenner...100%

wbobafett wrote:

Kenner...100%

But it looks like he has the extended finger and thicker soles ?

pomse2001 wrote:

wbobafett wrote:

Kenner...100%

But it looks like he has the extended finger and thicker soles ?

Do you ever READ!!!!

pomse2001 wrote:

wbobafett wrote:

Kenner...100%

But it looks like he has the extended finger and thicker soles ?

The COO is linked to a specific steel mould. As the COO is not unique to Ledy, the other mould characteristics are not as well.

Still an interesting figure, exactly the one which I would like to have to make comparison pics with his Ledy brother.
Is this a difficult Kenner variant to get, Wolff? How about the other Kenner pendant?

wbobafett wrote:

pomse2001 wrote:

wbobafett wrote:

Kenner...100%

But it looks like he has the extended finger and thicker soles ?

Do you ever READ!!!!

Yes I just do not always understand what you write!!!!!!

Dr Dengar wrote:

pomse2001 wrote:

wbobafett wrote:

Kenner...100%

But it looks like he has the extended finger and thicker soles ?

The COO is linked to a specific steel mould. As the COO is not unique to Ledy, the other mould characteristics are not as well.

Still an interesting figure, exactly the one which I would like to have to make comparison pics with his Ledy brother.
Is this a difficult Kenner variant to get, Wolff? How about the other Kenner pendant?

Hi Marco, maybe you can explain the difference so I can understand it ?

wbobafett wrote:

The Kenner Ben has extended finger and the boot you described . Of course...its the same steel mold.....although I did double check it!

What do you not understand in this post??

Trilogo/pbp

i am not sure but it can be ???

wbobafett wrote:

wbobafett wrote:

The Kenner Ben has extended finger and the boot you described . Of course...its the same steel mold.....although I did double check it!

What do you not understand in this post??

The difference between the lili ledy and the kenner ? on the pictures there is shown how the lili ledy should look. Is the pictures wrong ?

Kenner used a steel mould having COO no. 7. This mould also had the extended finger, foot, thicker soles.

The same mould was used by Lili Ledy to produce their Ben figures at some stage.

So there are no differences in the sculpt of the Kenner and Ledy figures.
There are only diffeences in the used plastic, paint, (and the cape and saber).

Dr Dengar wrote:

Still an interesting figure, exactly the one which I would like to have to make comparison pics with his Ledy brother.
Is this a difficult Kenner variant to get, Wolff? How about the other Kenner pendant?

Dont know if its difficult to get. I never searched for it!

The other Kenner pendant is just a slight different coo! As I already told in my coo thread I assume there is always a "pair" of the same, but slightly different coos...some have three! So the chances of getting one are 50:50 or in other cases 33,3:33,3:33,3!

For you as Ledy maniac: There is always a minimu of two different coos....shlightly different....not talking about the obvious different ones!

Ill gave up hunting these for now!

On the Vader: which coo do you mean?? The no coo has no Kenner pendant...NO!

starwizz wrote:

Trilogo/pbp

i am not sure but it can be ???

Maybe tri-logo, there was sold many tri-logo cards in Denmark.

starwizz wrote:

Trilogo/pbp

i am not sure but it can be ???

How in the world do you assume this is a PBP?? This is so totally wrong!! Dont create myth here!! Wildly guessing is not "knowing"!

Dr Dengar wrote:

So there are no differences in the sculpt of the Kenner and Ledy figures.
There are only diffeences in the used plastic, paint, (and the cape and saber).

Good headline for the guide btw

Dr Dengar wrote:

Kenner used a steel mould having COO no. 7. This mould also had the extended finger, foot, thicker soles.

The same mould was used by Lili Ledy to produce their Ben figures at some stage.

So there are no differences in the sculpt of the Kenner and Ledy figures.
There are only diffeences in the used plastic, paint, (and the cape and saber).

Oh now I understand much more.

But how do you see the difference in the used plastic and paint on the figures for me they look like the same ? or are the pictures totally wrong on the guide ?

pomse2001 wrote:

Dr Dengar wrote:

Kenner used a steel mould having COO no. 7. This mould also had the extended finger, foot, thicker soles.

The same mould was used by Lili Ledy to produce their Ben figures at some stage.

So there are no differences in the sculpt of the Kenner and Ledy figures.
There are only diffeences in the used plastic, paint, (and the cape and saber).

Oh now I understand much more.

But how do you see the difference in the used plastic and paint on the figures for me they look like the same ? or are the pictures totally wrong on the guide ?

What do you expect??? Balck plastic versus white?? Of course it has the same color! But the material is different!

And for someone who keeps every "every day normal" paint variant he finds you should see the differences in the haircolor very clear! Dark grey versus light grey...different sprayed eyes??

edit: And no...the pictures in the guide are perfect!!

wbobafett wrote:

For you as Ledy maniac: There is always a minimu of two different coos....shlightly different....not talking about the obvious different ones!

Ill gave up hunting these for now!

Maniac, no I am not!!!

Must have the precious!!!



Actually, after CCP, Stormtrooper, Luke Jedi, I think I will also give up on those COOs which differ only slightly, as they do not represent any differences in visual appearance. This in contrast to Ledy figures with totally different COOs, for example Han Solo Bespin, Luke Bespin, R2D2.

wbobafett wrote:

On the Vader: which coo do you mean?? The no coo has no Kenner pendant...NO!

OK that is good to know....but there is another....