Jota, first off, welcome to TIG. Second, WOW!!!! That collection is beyond impressive. I have to agree, the way you display the MOC's is wonderful.

I have seen Jota´s collection at his own home, and i can confirm that is amazing!!

Ok M8s, lets go on with some rare figures i have found here in Spain.Variant collectors,I need you oppinion.
As you know some early Poch figures are regular Kenner figures but different paint job.Well knowed are the early Poch Han Hoth chocolate legs and the RC black boots.
Well, that confirmed PBP variants have minor flaws in theirs molds( a plane mark/s on back),(i have confirmend with Mirco,MikeskywalKer, owner of an other Rc black boots and his RC have the same flaws as mine).
Long time ago i realized that some "regular" figures found in a Spainsh lots, purchased fron NON COLLECTORS SELLERS(so mix up with Kenner figures was not possible)have the same minor flaws on thiers molds and have differnet paint job.Some of that figures were resold time ago , but i still having some of them ....
Here you are a pict of my RC black boots, Han hoth Chocolatte legs , Sandpeople and luke bespin.
You can see the minor flaws(plane marks on bakc) that i mean
what do you think guys? did you found in others countries that kind of plane marks on back?
ALso please check the comparison shot between my Kenned translucend face and the Luke found in Spain(differnt paint job on face and hands also grey limbs)PLay attention to the white hands on luke bespin and luke pilot.

NOTE : ALL the marks on figure´s back are NOT playwear

the only thing that I can confirm are the dents on the RC....also some Ledy and PBP 3pos have this dents.

The Luke xwing and bespin hands are faded IMO.

I have to check my other pbps for this melted parts...and they look indeed melted to me...

wbobafett wrote:

the only thing that I can confirm are the dents on the RC....also some Ledy and PBP 3pos have this dents.

The Luke xwing and bespin hands are faded IMO.

You said the same thing on Han PBP white ahnd and finally you realized that the white paint used by POCH /PBP is not faded .I am sure some figures with white hands are faded but not all

Also, i would like your point about the relationship between the marks on back of RC and early Han hoth with others "regular" figures....,

i would differentiate between the dents on RC an 3po.....thes belong for sure to the production process......and the melted parts on the other figures.

These are two different phenomenas IMO.

Wolff

Ok, that was just a theory,i just thought that maybe the plane marks will belongs to the early poch figures, but i must be wrong ....

I have to edit...I didnt mean decide...I ment differentiate

Both phenomenons are maybe production marks...but Im only sure with the dents from RC and 3po.

Ill check my PBPs as soon as I come home

Wolff

I wish i had these figure's so i could help javi with input.


I'm here for the PBP conversation it totally blow's my mind.

I too think not all hand's are faded and the melted mark's are melted not play wear.

Javi i'm coming over for lunch bud, and to see your collection.

I'm flying out on my private jet.

Lol i wish a had a private jet.or even a cesna.maybe i'll start new hobbie, aviation.

I always wanted to travel the world.Dan.

Don't worry Wolff i'd come see you too,Dan.

As request of Jay i think we must disscuse the Vader PBP a little more
As far as i know the "rugose/thick" cape variant belongs to the PBP scar coo with remain"H".I have seen that cape on a MOC Vader PBP ROTJ offerless.What i really dont know if that figure was also realized elsewhere.
I remember that no usually you can found an other vader with remaining H rugose cape and different paint job on chest...
IMO there are two Vaders PBP:
Complet scar/thick cape no texture(red/black offers)
Remain "H" on coo/thick cape with texture(carded on ROTJ offerless)i found one example on UK
Also i found a LL vader in a big lot of figures from a non collector seller...
The cape have an "step" on the edge ....

Wow great investigation work Javi,also great pic's.

The PBP guide is getting better every day.Can't wait to see the final result.

I think Jay will be most happy.

Dan

BUMP

I thought i put this great thread back on top

I have some additional info to add the PBP Vader with the leather cape and factory cut error can also be found on Palitoy 65 backs

I think that calling this Vader The PBP / Palitoy Variant would be more accurate?

There is also some differences between the chest plate and belt buckle on my 2 loose examples even though the COO is the same.

Its also worth noting that the limbs on this variant are much looser than any other.

Cheers Jay

Hey Guys!
This thread is death long time ago...
Uli, you was rigth on the BIker PBP on card WITH weapon

Nice Javi.

Can you put a pic up of it's backside and COO.

Dan.

Just a litlle bump for new confirmed PBP/POCH exclusive
Feel free to add/correct any info below(some of them need to be confirmed):
4-LOM .No COO/ red armor. PBP CONFIRMED
Bespin security guard.No COO/ scar .PBP EXCLUSIVE???
Biker Scout Hard torso/Made in +scar.CONFIRMED on PBP cards and Colgate Promotion
Cloud Car Pilot No COO/scar/white face /pink face. PBP CONFIRMED
Han Solo(Original)No coo/white hands.PBP EXCLUSIVE???.(Paint job variant on Palitoy , German and Trilogo cards confirmed)
Han Solo Hoth MIHK/Dark –Chocolatte panths .POCH EXCLUSIVE???
Jawa. PBP EXCLUSIVE ??? NOT CONFIRMED
Lando Calrissian .NO COO/scar/Green-blue panths .CONFIRMED on PBP .Maybe also on TRI and PALITOY cards(but this ones with grey-blue panths).
Lando Calrissian black neck/MIHK (Both versions smille/no smille) CONFIRMED on POCH cards
Luke Skywalker farmboy. Hard torso /Split scar coo.PBP EXCLUSIVE???
Luke Skywalker Hoth. White face/No Coo/scar.PBP CONFIRMED
Luke Skywalker X-Wing Pilot WHITE Face. PBP-POCH EXCLUSIVE???
Princess Leia Organa Boushh.NO COO/ red hair and face details/Yellow helmet. PBP EXCLUSIVE ???
Rebel Commander. Black boots/No COO /”Made in…” PBP ALSO in TRI cards(Thanks Wolff )
Rebel Soldier in Hoth Battle Gear .Dark brown /White face .PBP also inTRI cards ???
Rebel Soldier in Hoth Battle Gear painted panths/unpainted on panth´s top.POCH CONFIRMED, EXCLUSIVE???
Stormtrooper. Hard torso/No COO.PBP EXCLUSIVE??.MAYBE also on TRI cards???
TIE Fighter Pilot.No COO/No DATE/AT-AT Driver INSIGNALS.PBP EXCLUSIVE???

LEGEND:
RED COLOUR:PBP/POCH CONFIRMED EXCLUSIVE
WHITE COLOUR:FIGURES TO BE CONFIRMED

Come on lads ,need some help to confirm some figures

Hi Javi, would love to help but the only PBP I have so far is the one I got from you

I would be interested in starting a small PBP run, but first I have to complete loose run and alt xwing focus!
But nearly there c'mon Santa!

c'mon PBP/Poch guys let's help Javi out here

Luke Skywalker farmboy. Hard torso /Split scar coo.PBP EXCLUSIVE???

This is one coo i would love to see

Pic anyone?

hmmm....didnt the rebel commander with black boots alkso appeared on some Trilogo cards??? I thought so....

wolff

wbobafett wrote:

hmmm....didnt the rebel commander with black boots alkso appeared on some Trilogo cards??? I thought so....

wolff

OK, RC black boot is out ...

So Wollf, What do you think about which figures were packed exclusive on POCH/PBP cards?? :scratch: :scratch: :scratch:
Maybe just these??:
-4-LOM .No COO/ red armor.
-Biker Scout Hard torso/Made in +scar.PBP cards and Colgate Promotion
-Cloud Car Pilot No COO/scar/white face /pink face.
-Han Solo Hoth MIHK/Dark –Chocolatte panths .POCH EXCLUSIVE???
-Jawa. PBP EXCLUSIVE ??? NOT CONFIRMED
-Lando Calrissian black neck/MIHK (Both versions smille/no smille) CONFIRMED on POCH cards
-Luke Skywalker Hoth. White face/No Coo/scar.PBP CONFIRMED
-Rebel Soldier in Hoth Battle Gear painted panths/unpainted on panth´s top.POCH CONFIRMED, EXCLUSIVE???
Stormtrooper. Hard torso/No COO.PBP EXCLUSIVE??.MAYBE also on TRI cards???
TIE Fighter Pilot.No COO/No DATE/AT-AT Driver INSIGNALS.PBP EXCLUSIVE???

Hey Wolff!!just checked the first page of the thread , you already gived you list, still updated? :
4-LOM red armor
Biker Scout
Cloud Car Pilot
Han Solo Hoth(i guess you mean the one with very white face(no the white with pink dots face) and different blue?)
Lando Calrissian black neck
Luke Skywalker Hoth
Luke Skywalker X-Wing Pilot white face
Rebel Commander black boots(also in some TRI cards)
Rebel Soldier in Hoth Battle Gear(dark brown chest/pale face)also in TRI cards
TIE Fighter Pilot (depends on emblems position)
Stormtrooper (i think also in some TRI cards)
:scratch:

I thought the black boots RC appeared on Spanish trilogo cards - so why is he out?

Uli

Hey Thanks for join to this thread again
I am not an expert and even less on TRI Cards, i thought just this figures were packed with TRI front -PBP Back:Rancor keeper,Wicket,Nikto,Zuckuss,8D8,Bwing pilot,luke pilot and Teebo??i dont remember very well, sorry...
Originally this thread was opened to confirm just the Spanish figures which were packed on POCH/PBP cards and only available in the Spanish market...
I am here to learn everyday ,so please teach me Trilogo collectors ....(sorry for this offtopic )
Cheers
Javi

The punch hole and the blister form is also told to be different on Spanish trilogo cards (very similar to the Meccano versions of trilogo cards). That's why they call the Yak packed with Gaffi stick a Spanish version... I hope I'm correct with this...

Javi - do you have a picture of a trilogo carded black boots RC at hand?

Uli