| Concentration On First 12 Pre-production & more 1/2/2016 | |
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The_Dark_Artist Sith Apprentice
Posts : 1245 Join date : 2011-10-03 Age : 52
| Subject: Concentration On First 12 Pre-production & more 1/2/2016 Sat May 12, 2012 3:56 pm | |
| Here is my collection of Pre-production vintage figures (and more). Thanks for looking : ) First Shot Chewbacca with First Shot Bowcaster: From the 2003 Earth find. More information regarding the 2003 Earth find can be found here http://forum.rebelscum.com/t1022383/ Thanks for looking guys : ) First Shot Ben with production DT saber, from the 1994 Earth find. NOTE: The original production DT saber was parted from the figure years ago by another owner/dealer unfortunately. I restored him with another production DT saber in June of 2014. The cape is 100% original to the find. After doing some investigation I found my first shot Ben was talked about here http://theswca.com/index.php?action=disp_item&item_id=48378 Below is an article showing my first shot Ben next to Bill McBride's first shot MT DT Vader. They were found together back in 1993/94 (Earth Find) and later auctioned off together. Original COA My newest addition to my Pre-production collection.... first shot “Death Squad Commander”.... From a former Kenner Salesman. Thanks for looking, -Steve I put an acid free paper stand together so the DSC would have none of his black paint touch anything. I'd like to preserve this figure the best I can. My newest addition to my Pre-production collection: First Shot Tusken Raider Here is a picture of some of the First Shots from the original find (including my Tusken Raider). I just acquired this Kenner stationery that originally came from a former Kenner Designer/Production Manager. This piece means a great deal to me. She worked on the vintage Star Wars line during all 3 movies... Thanks for looking : ) -Steve From the 2014 Greedodidntshoot Kenner find. Written and signed by the former Kenner employee. Un-produced Micro Torture Chamber Chewbacca First Shot R2-D2 with hand cut, silk screen printed, prototype sticker, and unproduced, non-production, prototype legs: .... forgot to mention the large, non-production screw, up his rear end. Thanks for looking, -Steve Painted First Shot Stormtrooper: This is a GRAIL to me First Shot Ben Kenobi arm. Comes originally from a former Kenner employee.... Photo Sample Power Droid: Used in the "Collect All 41 Action Figures" display. Prototype vinyl material for Ben Kenobi and Jawa.... First Shot Die Cast Land Speeder (No coo or date) First Shot Luke Skywalker First Shot Jawa with prototype vinyl cape First Shot Display 2016
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Boomstick66 Imperial Officer
Posts : 119 Join date : 2012-02-29 Age : 49 Location : Grand Rapids, MI
| Subject: Re: Concentration On First 12 Pre-production & more 1/2/2016 Sat May 12, 2012 4:32 pm | |
| How doe's one tell the difference between a production run figure and its "First Shot"? |
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The_Dark_Artist Sith Apprentice
Posts : 1245 Join date : 2011-10-03 Age : 52
| Subject: Re: Concentration On First 12 Pre-production & more 1/2/2016 Sat May 12, 2012 4:46 pm | |
| Hi. Usually the main things are the lack of COO and date on the back of the legs. Also some, like mine, are hand painted by Kenner employees. Also, some have been glued together, rather then sonic welded. My Chewbacca was glued together and hand painted but an interesting thing about this figure is it has different foot holes under the feet that are more crude then a production Chewwy. Here is an explanation in better detail of what a First Shot is. I hope it helps...
Engineering Pilots (First Shots): Once the hardcopy stage has been completed any necessary information and three (or four) hardcopies are sent overseas to the vendor to create the steel molds. From these steel molds engineering pilots commonly known as "first shots" are created. First shots are the first plastic mold injected examples of the action figure. The main purpose of first shots are to test the molds to see if they are filling correctly. In addition, first shots are also utilized to check to see if the action figure product assembles correctly, as well as the product detail. In this step the shrinkage from 104 percent to 100 percent can be seen from hardcopy to mold injected stage. Since the main purpose of first shots are to test the molds the vendor factory will utilize whatever colored plastic pellets are being utilized on the line. These first examples of first shots are non sonic welded, lack any copyright information, and some examples have hand writing on them. The sonic welding process basically involves the use of high frequency sound waves to create heat with friction through vibration to melt the plastic and "weld" the plastic together. First shots can be found in non production colors. First shots are utilized for various testing purposes, but the main testing purposes are for product safety. There are several stages involving first shots being created. A second group of first shots are created called Vendor Supplied Pilots. These first shots are assembled, and sonic welded, but are still not painted. After the second batch is created, a third batch is created and known as Paint Samples. These figures are just what the name states a fully painted example of the action figure. Paint Samples lack any copyright information. After the figure is approved by Lucasfilm the copyright information is added to the steel molds and a final batch of first shots are created. |
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ArtooDetour Admin
Posts : 9074 Join date : 2010-03-13
| Subject: Re: Concentration On First 12 Pre-production & more 1/2/2016 Sat May 12, 2012 5:35 pm | |
| Steve, that's an excellent quartet of first shot figures and a cool Earth story to go with it. Congrats mate |
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aussiejames Admin
Posts : 7732 Join date : 2009-11-12 Age : 50 Location : Western Australia
| Subject: Re: Concentration On First 12 Pre-production & more 1/2/2016 Mon May 14, 2012 9:28 am | |
| Fingers crossed for a Hammerhead I hope being steered down the path of pre production was a good idea? (not for your wallet!!) |
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The_Dark_Artist Sith Apprentice
Posts : 1245 Join date : 2011-10-03 Age : 52
| Subject: Re: Concentration On First 12 Pre-production & more 1/2/2016 Mon May 14, 2012 9:33 am | |
| It is buddy. And I also hope I find a Hammerhead. We'll see.... But I'm still very interested in variant collecting also. And hope to get back into that soon. |
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Dr Dengar TIG Benefactor
Posts : 7048 Join date : 2010-05-07 Age : 53 Location : The Netherlands
| Subject: Re: Concentration On First 12 Pre-production & more 1/2/2016 Mon May 14, 2012 2:28 pm | |
| Amazing set of First Shot figures, Steve!!!! Good luck hunting the Hammerhead FS. How about the red Snaggletooth? There should at least be first shots of the shorter legs and maybe the complete figure as well? :scratch: |
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The_Dark_Artist Sith Apprentice
Posts : 1245 Join date : 2011-10-03 Age : 52
| Subject: Re: Concentration On First 12 Pre-production & more 1/2/2016 Mon May 14, 2012 2:46 pm | |
| Thanks Buddy : ) I am after the Hammerhead but it will be tough my friend. I believe there is 2 Red Snags in collections and I will probably never have a chance to find one of those : ( |
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curch Imperial Admiral
Posts : 510 Join date : 2011-02-12 Age : 49 Location : Drums, Pa. USA
| Subject: Re: Concentration On First 12 Pre-production & more 1/2/2016 Mon May 14, 2012 3:56 pm | |
| beautiful Steve! Now please stop posting these pics Just curious if anyone know how much it is to get these graded and verified? |
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The_Dark_Artist Sith Apprentice
Posts : 1245 Join date : 2011-10-03 Age : 52
| Subject: Re: Concentration On First 12 Pre-production & more 1/2/2016 Mon May 14, 2012 4:08 pm | |
| Through AFA my friend. They work with Tom Derby who can verify if it is indeed a First Shot. It goes through a Junior grader before it gets to him. They compare numbers and agree on a grade unless it is rejected. Cost for my Fett was a little more then $200 in a archival UV resistant case with fast turn around time. You can pay less if you are willing to wait longer. Hope that helps : ) |
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curch Imperial Admiral
Posts : 510 Join date : 2011-02-12 Age : 49 Location : Drums, Pa. USA
| Subject: Re: Concentration On First 12 Pre-production & more 1/2/2016 Mon May 14, 2012 4:16 pm | |
| Wow, that much. I have over 100 prototypes......that can get costly Thanks Steve! |
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The_Dark_Artist Sith Apprentice
Posts : 1245 Join date : 2011-10-03 Age : 52
| Subject: Re: Concentration On First 12 Pre-production & more 1/2/2016 Mon May 14, 2012 4:19 pm | |
| You can get it done for far cheaper if you go for a lesser case and wait longer. Also, if you send in a bunch of items the price will be less per item. So, maybe it would be worth it since you have so many.... |
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Rawlin Grand Moff
Posts : 993 Join date : 2011-01-17 Location : Sweden
| Subject: Re: Concentration On First 12 Pre-production & more 1/2/2016 Tue May 15, 2012 3:27 am | |
| Youve done some amazing finds there they look real good! |
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Dr Dengar TIG Benefactor
Posts : 7048 Join date : 2010-05-07 Age : 53 Location : The Netherlands
| Subject: Re: Concentration On First 12 Pre-production & more 1/2/2016 Tue May 15, 2012 6:42 am | |
| - curch wrote:
- Wow, that much. I have over 100 prototypes......
Time for a new limelight, Joe! |
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curch Imperial Admiral
Posts : 510 Join date : 2011-02-12 Age : 49 Location : Drums, Pa. USA
| Subject: Re: Concentration On First 12 Pre-production & more 1/2/2016 Tue May 15, 2012 2:57 pm | |
| They are not of Star Wars. But of other Kenner Toys. |
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Yzerman Imperial Admiral
Posts : 555 Join date : 2009-11-21 Age : 49 Location : SWEDEN
| Subject: Re: Concentration On First 12 Pre-production & more 1/2/2016 Thu May 17, 2012 5:04 am | |
| Steve, great set of prototypes. 4 down, 92 to go Thanks for sharing! |
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The_Dark_Artist Sith Apprentice
Posts : 1245 Join date : 2011-10-03 Age : 52
| Subject: Re: Concentration On First 12 Pre-production & more 1/2/2016 Thu May 17, 2012 9:39 am | |
| Ha, LOL, thanks for the count buddy : ) That would be a crazy awesome collection, to have all the First Shots... |
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dylbacca Imperial Gunner
Posts : 64 Join date : 2012-05-16
| Subject: Re: Concentration On First 12 Pre-production & more 1/2/2016 Thu May 17, 2012 7:44 pm | |
| It's been said before, but I'll say it again, nice work Steve! |
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The_Dark_Artist Sith Apprentice
Posts : 1245 Join date : 2011-10-03 Age : 52
| Subject: Re: Concentration On First 12 Pre-production & more 1/2/2016 Thu May 17, 2012 7:52 pm | |
| Dylan!!!!!! Thanks buddy : ) I owe a lot to you my friend. Just having you comment on my collection is a real honor. Welcome back to TIG by the way : ) |
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javiswspain Grand Moff
Posts : 939 Join date : 2010-03-20 Age : 48
| Subject: Re: Concentration On First 12 Pre-production & more 1/2/2016 Fri May 18, 2012 1:20 pm | |
| Hey Steve!!! Love your first shots dude ,specially the Bluesnagg!! congrats and good luck with rest of the run cheers |
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The_Dark_Artist Sith Apprentice
Posts : 1245 Join date : 2011-10-03 Age : 52
| Subject: Re: Concentration On First 12 Pre-production & more 1/2/2016 Fri May 18, 2012 1:22 pm | |
| Javi, very kind of you my friend : ) Thank you buddy!!!! |
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darth alex New User
Posts : 6 Join date : 2012-04-06 Age : 45
| Subject: Re: Concentration On First 12 Pre-production & more 1/2/2016 Sat Jun 02, 2012 12:08 am | |
| Nice walrus man, he is one of my favorites
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The_Dark_Artist Sith Apprentice
Posts : 1245 Join date : 2011-10-03 Age : 52
| Subject: Re: Concentration On First 12 Pre-production & more 1/2/2016 Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:27 pm | |
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Yzerman Imperial Admiral
Posts : 555 Join date : 2009-11-21 Age : 49 Location : SWEDEN
| Subject: Re: Concentration On First 12 Pre-production & more 1/2/2016 Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:18 pm | |
| As I said over at RS. That FS DT Ben is awesome. Great addition to the focus. |
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sith jawa Imperial Lieutenant
Posts : 272 Join date : 2010-05-03 Location : Northern Virginia (USA)
| Subject: Re: Concentration On First 12 Pre-production & more 1/2/2016 Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:24 pm | |
| Steve,
Congrats on the First Shot Ben. It looks amazing.. |
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