Since I have had some coin questions asked in the past few months, I thought I would be nice to put together a coin reference thread. A lot of these come from the main coin page on the Collectors Archive, but I think these are the ones that are good for someone starting out.
Production Process
A good place to start, is learning how the coins are actually made in the first place. There is a great article written on theswca called:
A Coin is Born: Kenner's Power of the Force Coins, from Concept to Mass Production.
While that article is well written, it can be kind of hard to grasp all the concepts in one reading. The video below on youtube shows the process of making a coin which is very simular to how the POTF coins were made. I found after watching the video and then going back to read the article helped it to make a lot more sense and is good for us that are more visual learners.
Preproduction
Luckily, many of the items involved in the preproduction process in making the coins have survived today. Here are a few link to some of those items.
Preliminary Coin Art Creatures Stage 1 Hardcopy Creatures Softcopy Creatures Text Master Creatures Coin Dies
Guides One of the first things that I think can confuse people is the Category system. Gus Lopez has written two articles that use the system. For the person just starting out I think his original article has a little more information about it and what his resoning was for why certain coins fall into their respective category.
Original Coin Category Article
A little while after a new guide was written which included other coins like the Droids, Ewoks, and Prototype coins. Some of the catagories were also changed a little bit.
Comprehensive Guide to POTF, Droids, and Ewoks Coins
Prototype/Unproduced
There are a lot of different coins out there that fall into this category. These are the most recognized ones that I feel a coin collector starting out should know about. Many more can be found at the main coin archive link at the top.
At the top of the list is the Pitch coin. This coin was believed to have been used to pitch the idea of collectors coins to Lucasfilm/vendors.
Luke Jedi Pitch Coin
One of the easiest coin prototypes to obtain is the Luke X-Wing smaller coin. The archive states only 400, but that number is believed to be a lot higher than that now. This is also one of the cheapest prototype coins to buy.
Small Luke X-Wing Prototype Coin
One of the most highly sought after prototype coins is the 63rd coin. It was to be included with a mail away offer for a coin binder on the proposed 93 back card. The coin can be found in both gold and silver colors. The A-Wing pilot coin can also be found in the same color of gold as the 63rd. It is a lighter shade of gold than the Droids coins. This is believed to have been a coin to test the gold color for the 63rd.
Silver 63rd Gold 63rd 93 Cardback Mail Away Album Gold A-Wing Pilot
Repros/Restrikes
Most reproduction coins are very easy to tell if they are fake or not. The majority out there are not made of aluminum and are one sided. Most of these end up on recarded figures. However, there are at least some convincing fakes of Boba Fet and Anakin. These coins were discussed on this thread on rebelscum.
Repro coins
The restrikes are a completely different matter. They were produced by the original coin company that did the original coins as a test for Hasbro when they were planning the Millennium Minted figure series. These coins are thicker than original coins and also weigh more. Here are some great links with info about them.
List of which coins were restruck Thick/Thin Coins
Display
One of the big dilemmas with coins is how to display them. Some collectors simply use pog pages and keep them in a notebook or a stack of coin holders. Many others choose to make/have made custom frames. A lot of the frames out there base their design on the Executive set. These were sets that were sent to Lucasfilm/Kenner Executives that were framed with two complete sets of coins showing front and back. Here is a great guide that was made a couple years ago and some of the ideas that have been done before.
Adam Burges' Frame Guide Executive Set Boba Fisher POTF Coin Frame Boba Fisher Droids and Ewoks Frame Jim Skoi Frame G_Man Frame The Guv Frame CloudCity_Gangzr's Display My Frame Carl Waterworth's Frame Framed Coin with Mailer Envelope
The other option are airtite cases. These can be found on ebay or coin supply websites.
The size of case needed for the standard size coins is 39mm and the small Luke proto coin is 32mm. Most collectors use the cases with a black foam ring, but a white version is available as well.
The coin size also is the same as a U.S. size poker chip. I recently found some cheaper display options originally made for poker chips, but should also work with POTF coins. I hope to order the 6 coin display case soon to try them out with my Ewoks coins. I've never ordered from the site before, so I cannot vouch for their service.
63 Coin Insert 12 Coin Insert 6 Coin Display Case 3 Coin Display Case
Prices
The prices on coins have fluctuated a lot over the years. A complete set can take a long time to piece together and requires some patience when you get to the later category coins. If cost is a factor, but you still want some coins, I feel that collecting just the Category 1 and 2 coins is a very feasible goal. It was mine originally, but for some reason I just couldn't stop there. I use a thread on rebelscum that works very well as a general price guide. This seller has broken up and sold several coin sets over the last few years.
FS: PotF coins for sale, all Categories!
Craig, Tim and I have also started work on a spreadsheet to keep track of coins. It is embedded below and will be updated with new prices.
Last edited by shawn_k on Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:30 pm; edited 11 times in total
The Admiral Jedi Master
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I printed out the final prices for the those coins (that Jay is taking about) mate... I try and scan the pages this week and send them on to you Shawn.
Nice one!!!
Joe_O Force Addict
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A lot of work went into this and it shows! Great reference!
shawn_k Jedi Master
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Subject: Re: POTF Coin Reference Thread Tue Jun 01, 2010 10:50 am
Here's a little bump to this thread for a redesign. Craig's Limelight inspired me to redo this thread a bit now with graphics. The other new addition is a price guide spreadsheet. Craig and I both have access to the spreadsheet and will try and keep it updated. Another batch of coins ended over the weekend. Based on those auctions and the previous batch that ended in January, it appears that AFA seems to make a difference on CAT 1 and 2 coins, but with the later categories, grading does not really affect prices.
Joe_O Force Addict
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Subject: Re: POTF Coin Reference Thread Tue Jun 01, 2010 11:00 am
Awesome work, it is a fantastic reference Shawn!
If anyone skipped the coin making movie you really must watch it, it really helps to understand the whole process and the next time you see one of these - you will be able to remember what it is , what it was used for and which part of the production timeline it was used in!
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Subject: Re: POTF Coin Reference Thread Tue Jun 01, 2010 11:23 am
shawn_k wrote:
Here's a little bump to this thread for a redesign. Craig's Limelight inspired me to redo this thread a bit now with graphics. The other new addition is a price guide spreadsheet. Craig and I both have access to the spreadsheet and will try and keep it updated. Another batch of coins ended over the weekend. Based on those auctions and the previous batch that ended in January, it appears that AFA seems to make a difference on CAT 1 and 2 coins, but with the later categories, grading does not really affect prices.
Love the new look Shawn and the embeded spreedsheet is fantastic buddy!
You've took the lead sole role here and done an excellent job.
It is fantastic that people are starting to give major contributions to the TIG site. Hopefully some of the big gun collectors can take note and maybe contribute at some stage.
vintageSWfan Force Addict
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Wow this is the mother off all coin thread's.Very Impressive.
Great work Shawn.
It's packed with all the info one could ever ask for.Double boo-yeah.
Dan.
CloudCity_Gangzr Imperial Gunner
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Subject: Re: POTF Coin Reference Thread Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:15 pm
Shawn,
I just wanted to say, nice work on this thread! I hadn’t googled "POTF Coin" in such a long time, I was completely unaware of the existence of this site. Great job to everyone evolved, I see a lot of familiar faces on these boards. I hope it turns out to be a big success.
-Chad
shawn_k Jedi Master
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Subject: Re: POTF Coin Reference Thread Sun Jun 06, 2010 3:20 pm
CloudCity_Gangzr wrote:
Shawn,
I just wanted to say, nice work on this thread! I hadn’t googled "POTF Coin" in such a long time, I was completely unaware of the existence of this site. Great job to everyone evolved, I see a lot of familiar faces on these boards. I hope it turns out to be a big success.
-Chad
Hey Chad thanks! Also, welcome to the board. I hope you'll stick around. Craig and I are the ones here hoping to finish a set but there are a few others that are collecting coins as well. I'll update the thread with a link to your limelight on RS. I really liked the design you went for on your frame with the red background and two sets like the executive.
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Subject: Re: POTF Coin Reference Thread Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:29 am
Hi Chad welcome to the forum buddy I hope you stick around!
Shawn its great to see this thread index by Google so people can find it as well bro!
Tank1252 Force Addict
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The spreadsheet has been updated with a batch of the typically more expensive coins that ended on July 18th. These were not listed very well on ebay, so the prices were low. I would have probably tried to get me that Greedo had I seen these when they were listed.
Tank1252 Force Addict
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Yeah. saw those Shawn. That spreadsheet will prove to be very useful to me in the future i'm sure.
Carl Waterworth Imperial Commander
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Subject: Re: POTF Coin Reference Thread Sun Aug 08, 2010 1:31 pm
That is a fantastic and one of the best articles i have ever read!
If you ever need another frame to add to your list lmk
shawn_k Jedi Master
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Subject: Re: POTF Coin Reference Thread Sun Aug 08, 2010 3:01 pm
Carl Waterworth wrote:
That is a fantastic and one of the best articles i have ever read!
If you ever need another frame to add to your list lmk
Thanks Carl. It's been awhile since we last talked. How've you been? Any luck adding in adding those few unproduced coins you still need?
I would be more than happy to add your set to the list of frames. Send me the link to the picture/thread you'd like me to use.
Carl Waterworth Imperial Commander
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Subject: Re: POTF Coin Reference Thread Sun Aug 08, 2010 3:07 pm
I am good thanks! I only need 3 droids and still way off on the ewoks, but hey i live in hope! I was gutted i missed out on Tig fromm and Logrey on ebay earlier this year
aussiejames Admin
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[quote=rubberlike]I picked up a complete set recently and am now selling off my duplicates. Many of these coins came from people here on RS and all are in good or great condition. I kept track the price I paid for every coin and am using that as my guide for pricing these so I can make back most of what I put into them. Shipping is included the prices.
Total listed price is: $1186. I would love to sell the whole lot of 44 coins for $830.20. That's 30% off. Or… take 5% off for 5 coins, 10% off for 10 or more coins.
----------------------- CAT 3 ----------------------- Emperor's Royal Guard - $58 Luke original - $50 Logray - $28 TIE Fighter Pilot - AFA 90 - $80
----------------------- CAT 4 ----------------------- AT-AT - Millennium edition THICKER REPO COIN - $30 - Price is less than half of what I paid Han Hoth - $68 Lando with Cloud City - $70 Millennium Falcon - $54
----------------------- CAT 5 ----------------------- Bib Fortuna - $105 Luke on Dagobah - $65 [/quote] Just thought I'd post this up for some price guides (cheap too)
shawn_k Jedi Master
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Thanks James. I'll get those added to the spreadsheet in the next day or two. They are all pretty well priced. The seller found a complete set with mailer envelope at CV! Damn, where was I. lol Would have at least liked to have seen it in person.
Tank1252 Force Addict
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Subject: Re: POTF Coin Reference Thread Thu Oct 07, 2010 12:35 am
I'm always looking for this great thread, so stickied it is!