hi guys and thanks maniac for telling me about this place. maniac and I have been talking today and he said try here to see if this boushh lid is good or not so please can you tell me what it is. thanks.

sorry only have a phone camera so not great pics

 to TIG.

Unfortunately, due to the 'deformed' shape, that looks like a stripped Taiwan helmet as well.
The Taiwan helmets are used because the paint is easily removed & it doesn't 'bleed' into the plastic like the Hong Kong helmets.

boooo

is this definate? does stripping make it larger then?

ackredies wrote:

boooo

is this definate? does stripping make it larger then?

The solvents used can cause swelling of the plastic. Hopefully others will give you their opinions though.

Do you see any remains of paint when looking with a magnifying glass?

none at all, and after your pic highlighting where on maniacs was I looked again to see, and nothing at all.

In that case it might be a thoroughly stripped one or maybe it is a real Taiwan unpanted helmet.

Question is, what is a real unpainted Taiwan helmet?
Do they exist at all?  And if so what might be their origin?

On Page 2, Dr Dengar wrote:

Back to the question what might the Taiwan unpainted helmets be, stated they are not fake:

• First shots/prototypes  for the Taiwan type helmet? (like the Earth’s Certificate of Authenticity stated for one of the helmets in the pics): Not very likely, reading the quotes above. FS helmets are made from a harder material. Probably the Earth made a mistake here (see also Spidey_Seth’s quote)
  
• Unpainted helmets that passed through Quality Control and were carded with the Boushh figure: not very likely as no MOC has shown up sofar.
  
• Off specs helmets which got a bit deformed during the injection mould process and which were subsequently collected and kept apart for recycling purposes: I like this explanation the best. It might explain the rougher surface of these helmets. Maybe a factory employer took a few out of the factory and they eventually came in collector's hands. In this case the helmets are off course no production items.
  
• ....
  

has anyone tried to recreate stripping a taiwan lid to see if this is what happens. this whole "debate" is a tough one. three days ago I didnt know these even existed lol.

I don't know whether it was tried before, but it sounds like a good idea using a beater helmet and a solvent.

What solvent? Isopropyl alcohol?

http://mobile.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?moduleno=28994

I've just had to look that one up, according to the link above it evaporates. So will it be any good.

I know it's crude but I thought brake fluid was one if the best paint strippers?

Hey Guys -

I can probably help with this little experiment  

I have 2 very worn Taiwan helmets I could use as test subjects . Tell me what I should soak them in and I will do it   Maby I should try different solvents on each one :scratch: 

I can post before and after pics - maby even stages in between ?

After the experiment is complete I will do custom paint jobs on them so there's no chance they will ever be passed off as something they aren't  

I've used this paint stripper in the past on other things, I know my dad has some in his shed. Question is do I have a spare helmet?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B0077BM4NQ

I wouldnt know where to start but willing to try something if needed.

anyone have any joy?

Any general consensus of what solvents to use ?

I can experiment with 2 different solvents but you guys need to tell me specifically what to use  

should I try Isopropyl Alcohol ?

Paint Thinner / Mineral Spirits ?

other suggestions :scratch: 

as I say willing to try too but have no idea what to use either.

brake fluid, try if you like. It's been done before  

Next one, also bought from a respected forum member, but already a while ago. Bought it as a legit Taiwan unpainted helmet.

On the former pics it was really pretty obvious that there are stains of the old color. This time I've taken a closer look at my pics before posting them. There are "dirty spots" too, but they look like dust to me.
The helmet looks weird on the inside though. This looks like stains of the greyish/silver color, but the inside isn't supposed to be painted...

Your opinions?

that looks like its been sat in the stripping liquid and the flecks have attached themselves inside.

Didn't think about this, but yes, it could be right.   

Other opinions? Or does everyone agree?

It looks stripped to me, across the edges there appears to be small elements of paint left on the helmet.

I'll take mine out of storage this weekend and upload photos (if I dare!!)