i think the right one is a regular no coo "made in..."a common figure

wbobafett wrote:

sacko wrote:

Guys,

Ayways we know there are variants within ledy like the CCP, how do we not know that this isn't also a ledy variant? I was sold mine as a ledy also. Here are the pics.


Thanks

Jason

hi jason:

!. did you bought the one from the right from mexico???? I think not!

2. there is no carded proof of another ledy version

3. the one on the right can be get everywhere......I can surf through ebay and show you 20 auctions with this figure!!!

Believe me and the rest of us: the right one is 100% not Ledy!

Wolff

Wolff,

1. You are correct it did not come from Mexico but was sold as Ledy.
2. I understand that. As we all can see the symbols are appear to be different, scarf and eyeglasses a diff color, the face color different and the mustache a lighter red.
3. I just did some surfing and I saw many RC's but none matching exactly without a question to the seller. I also saw a No COO with what looked like no Made in.

Anyways may not be ledy but I am doubting it is more common than the standard RC.

Thanks for all the input guys

Jason

sacko wrote:

wbobafett wrote:

sacko wrote:

Guys,

Ayways we know there are variants within ledy like the CCP, how do we not know that this isn't also a ledy variant? I was sold mine as a ledy also. Here are the pics.


Thanks

Jason

hi jason:

!. did you bought the one from the right from mexico???? I think not!

2. there is no carded proof of another ledy version

3. the one on the right can be get everywhere......I can surf through ebay and show you 20 auctions with this figure!!!

Believe me and the rest of us: the right one is 100% not Ledy!

Wolff

Wolff,

1. You are correct it did not come from Mexico but was sold as Ledy.
2. I understand that. As we all can see the symbols are appear to be different, scarf and eyeglasses a diff color, the face color different and the mustache a lighter red.
3. I just did some surfing and I saw many RC's but none matching exactly without a question to the seller. I also saw a No COO with what looked like no Made in.

Anyways may not be ledy but I am doubting it is more common than the standard RC.

Thanks for all the input guys

Jason

Sorry to hear it was sold to you as a Ledy Jason hopefully getting the Lili Ledy guide complete will stop some people from doing this in the future (weather its deliberate or through lack of information.)

Unfortunately the one on the right is a common figure i have one myself and i believe there is one for sale now in the TIG classified's.

Its certainly common compared to a genuine LL RC or The Dark Boots PBP Variant Javi pictured earlier (which was awesome btw!)

Jay

Yes JAy, is a very common figure IMO,i purchased one from a UK seller last week just cos i needed the weapon Total cost 3GBP shipped...

yo jay did you have a carded figure on the way?and it is of the one figure in question.what type of cardback is it,or what country did it come from.
question 2.wolff was uppp.did you say there are two variant's of the rebel commander.is it the one figure you put a pic of.Dan.

ok the figure on the right is actually either off of a german general mills card or a dutch clipper card.that's good new's.now i know what it is.thank you for the info Jay.does anyone have a pic of this figure on a german or dutch(clipper) moc.Dan

vintageSWfan wrote:

ok the figure on the right is actually either off of a german general mills card or a dutch clipper card.that's good new's.now i know what it is.thank you for the info Jay.does anyone have a pic of this figure on a german or dutch(clipper) moc.Dan

Dan its important to note that i said it can be found on German GM MOC's and Dutch Clippers but it is probably available on more European MOC's than just these two.

Ultimately its a widespread common figure in the scheme of things hopefully when we do the LL Guide for the Rebel Commander we can add a section so people to confuse this figure as a LL in the future

Jay

ya,that's a good idea Jay. this figure would be a perfect example of a ledy look a like but it's the european variant so many get confused on.Ledy's are so tricky.Dan.

BTW I emailed the seller to try to find out where he got it. I will keep you posted .

Jason

UPDATE

The seller replied to me right away. Although he does not remember who sold him the figure he offered me a full refund. Super nice guy and like me was fooled by the ledy look alike. It is very cool that there are people like this out there! Thank you to this seller, I will def buy from them again! I directed him here after a few good conversations so hopefully he will join us.

WOOT!

Jason

Great news Jason! Nice work with this thread as well otherwise you would never have known!

joe your avatar is killr

Hey guys, I am a little late to this thread. I am not sure if I am reading the thread correctly but is the conclusion that a LL RC should have a reddish mustache? Wolff posted info early that said the facial hair must be reddish but I am not sure if that was a general statement or in relation to a specific photo posted. The reason I ask is because the thread linked back to RS has a MOC Ledy RC that appears to me to be totally brown and not reddish at all. Now keep in mind I am color blind but I don't think I have a problem with browns or reds.

-chris

"thread linked back to RS has a MOC Ledy RS that appears to me to be totally brown and not reddish at all" I'm sure we can get Weasel to take another picture. So there may be 2 LL versions, so scarf and boot paint is the important factors??

sweet.xiscool or james could ya put the that carded example of the other Ledy Rebel Commander with browm mustache on here.thank's Dan.

Here ya go:

wow that is cool .it's definitley reel it's authenticated afa so i'm pretty sure the card has'nt been tampered with.thank's xiscool.what is your name by the way.Dan.

i think this might be the other variation wolff mentioned?maby wolff will chime in.i'll pm him.

thats also a reddish mustache IMO.....depends on light!

There is NO variants of the RC known....I just mentioned that the black parts from the chest can be painted splitted or together. This is no varinat IMO, just a question of color amount sprayed through spray mask!

Wolff

oh ok.so the variant is in the chest mold slight difference.this one is possible the same red mustache just has dark lighting can't see it very well?Dan.

I pulled the photo into my photo editor and the white balance and exposure on this one is spot on. For this particular figure, the lighting could not be any better, which is surprising since most people do not know how to set white balance or proper exposure.

The reason I brought this up again is because my AFA-graded loose one seems identical to this one. I think I see a touch of red but it seems mostly brown to me. I will take a photo later and let the experts take a look since I am still learning what to look for.

-chris

BTW, I will be able to answer this question soon boys

Jason

Thanks, Jason. By the way, here are photos of mine, could not avoid the shadows on the right side of the photos:


Thanks again for the help.

-chris

xiskool wrote:

Thanks, Jason. By the way, here are photos of mine, could not avoid the shadows on the right side of the photos:


Thanks again for the help.

-chris

That is a beautiful figure Chris and great pictures for reference. With all the help on TIG we will have Ledy mastered.

Thanks to everyone so far.

Jason

Jason - So what do you think, does the stache look reddish or brown to you? I don't trust my eyes and like Wolff said, the lighting makes a big difference.

-chris