recently acquired this snowtrooper from spain.
I was told it is a poch snowtrooper with a pbp cape .
ive read the poch threads and still would like opinions on it
. it has excessive plastic between the legs , it was acquired from spain.
the welding is not good.
I keep reading about a mark on the right arm. what mark is that on the poch trooper?
there is a mark on the left arm as you can see in the pics . ive also read the cape should have slits and be a more flexible material. it has holes and is very flexible unlike any other cape I have on any snowtrooper. so check the pics and let me know what ya'll experts think , thanks bill

not sure whether the Hothtrooper is Poch or not.

But you can find more about the cape here

http://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t4994p150-imperialgunnery-com-track-the-updates-here

Normally the cape with the round holes is associated with the PBP/Euro Snowtrooper.

Lately I have received a Poch Snowtrooper with this cape from a Spanish childhood.
It could be a mix up that happened during childhood  while renacting the Battle of Hoth with friends on the playyard.

Or maybe some Poch Snowtroopers were packed with the PBP capes on the card while making a transition from the Poch to the PBP era.

Often the Poch Snowtrooper has a scar in the upper right arm just underneath the shoulder armor. Probably this reflects a mould defect coupled to the batch of limbs which were used to produce these figures. See the picture below. Poch figure on the right.



Hope this helps.

Marco

well my trooper has the mark!!!!
very excited , it was sold to me as poch ....

the seller ive been getting all my poch stuff from SLOWLY as they can be a bit pricey
only speaks the littlest bit of English and its very broken as well. I just wanna be sure what im getting
is poch and not something else , so thank you Chris and Marco ,
cheers , Bill

I have two types of capes in my possession and although they look the same at first glance they are not. I will first post a picture of the NON glossy side of both capes:




This is a picture of the glossy side of both capes:



Both capes are flexible and glossy on one side but

Cape 1 is almost as glossy on the other side
Cape 2 is rough on the not glossy side

Also the cut is not identical.

If the material is notably different you cant gauge glossiness or non glossiness as you are comparing apples to oranges. Even if the material was sourced by whatever company did these(poch/pbp) from the same source the company who supplies them could have had different methods and with something like a thin sheet of vinyl even a slight change in one ingredient can cause a different feel or look.

I worked for a plastics company for a short bit and can tell you that not even ingredient change but other things has an effect. if the roller was to hot the plastic looked almost melty/liquid like and had a bright sheen to it as it was wound onto the rollers. If it was to cold the plastic looked hazy and was not as clear or translucent and that is just at the packaging area not even the hopper where the individual beads were put in. If the beads were made differently it looked different. This is a batch to batch tolerance that was given so long as the various test showed it was in compliance. So one batch looked slightly different to another, not huge but enough to be within tolerance yet slightly different appearance.

As far as the cut, there are things that can make the cut vary a bit. My understanding of these capes where they are die cut from stacked sheets. I explained in another thread how a dull die can cause the top layers to stretch out while cutting. Remember these would likely be cut with force versus heat as heat on this thin material would cause melting and ruin the product. So as a die goes through the layers if it is dull it can stretch the top layers making them larger than the bottom. I don't know how many layers would cut at one time, but if it was multiple layers the top could potentially stretch almost all the way to the bottom layer before releasing. Is that what happened here? It honestly doesn't look like it, but I don't know. It almost looks like the die was changed to a larger die. We don't know if that is what happened though as we don't have a kenner employee here to say.

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