So it is this type of crap that is what is leading me out of this hobby altogether. It's constant experiences with guys on ebay that has left me wondering where we are in the state of this hobby. It's riddled with guys who abuse the system and are scammers.

Here's the scenario...

I sold a lot of loose Return of the Jedi figures on ebay, 31 in all. Most had weapons, though a few were missing. Most figures in good condition, though some had wear. I posted pics of all the figures. All the weapons I had were original weapons for the figures. I do not deal with reproduction crap that has floated around.

Backstory on these for those that care is that I bought all of these figures myself way back in 1994 through 1997, when I was working on a complete loose set, before I shifted to a complete carded set. I picked them up from local comic stores, flea markets, and antique shops. This was back before I as on Ebay at all, so a lot of traveling around was done to assemble this set. Regardless, I do not deal in reproduction items and these were all bought before reproduction weapons became the hot trend.

So the lot sells. The amount isn't important, but it sold for $140.00. If anybody wants to take a look, you can find it under my ebay user ID of "manbat7". Or do a search. Should be pretty easy to find under completed listings. So, this sells and the buyer pays via Paypal. It's shipping to Australia, which bites me in the *** as I will only send via Registered Mail to foriegn countries ever since I had the headache of the guy up in Canada that claimed non receipt of the GSD carded Jawa that I sold years ago. Sucks, but I learned my lesson that I need secure and provable tracking otherwise scam artists will claim non receipt and Ebay/Paypal is more than willing to refund their money. So, I end up taking about a $20.00 loss due to shipping to the great land down under, and this fine upstanding Ebay user.

What do I get today? An e-mail from him trying to tell me that all the weapons are reproduction weapons, and that he only bought the lot because they were real weapons. (which they were). Not sure where he gets the idea that they're reproduction. I tell him that all weapons are original and that I verified them against Sansweet's book, plus reference here. He responds with statements of "I'm going to post photos of them on imperial gunnery, yes, I'm a member as well", and "let the community decide" He also states that "if they agree with me, I will expose you there, I'll give you a neg rep on Ebay, I'll make a complaint against you on Ebay, and I'll also do the same on Paypal."

So anyways, I figured I'd post here to see if anybody has any experience with this fantastic individual. Sounds to me like he's trying to work a scam to try to get his money back by filing false Paypal claims.

Don
who keeps swearing the he's done with Ebay but keeps going back he can't find another selling outlet

Hopefully your deals with other aussies work out better.
Tristram:
http://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t3123p750-who-s-who-introduce-yourself-here

They look all fine to me:



James- who awaits Tristram's pictures so we can set this right.

Wow, did you just post my personal information on this website? Mods, can you please remove that as a matter of urgency.

Don, if you're going to post this information here then tell the whole story.

Firstly, let's discuss your postage miscalculation. I paid for this auction immediately, after about a week of no action taken by Don I sent him a message asking for an update. He said that he forgot to send it as he was busy, apologised and promised to send it immediately. Accidents happen, fair enough, play on. A couple of days later I get another message from Don. It seems he stuffed up the postage and comes back to me cap in hand begging for me to pay the additional $22 so he's not out of pocket. If I was a scammer I would have laughed and told him to go jump. Instead I considered it and agreed to it!!! So, this out of pocket claim is completely bullshit. I told him to invoice me on paypal and I would pay it when the figures arrive. Seriously Don, forget to leave that bit out, I wonder why... See below for a copy and paste of the discussion, for some reason I can't attach a pdf of a screenshot taken of the conversation on ebay, if someone can show me how to it it then I'll post it.



Buyer has responded to your question about this item

Don't respond to the sender if this message requests that you complete the transaction outside eBay. This type of offer is against eBay policy, may be fraudulent, and is not covered by buyer protection programs. Learn More


Dear manbat7,Hi Don,I'd prefer to have the package sent via a more secure form of shipping so I'm happy to assist with this, $42.65 amount sounds about right. Send me a copy of the scan and once I've received the figures we'll sort it out. I haven't experienced this situation before, can we do this via paypal (which is my preference)? Not sure if you can send an invoice via paypal, please investigate. I'll let you know when they arrive, I'm more than happy to purchase vintage SW stuff from a trusted collector so let me know when you have other stuff on the market. You ok with this?CheersTris- iabee


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From: manbat7
To: iabee
Subject: manbat7 sent a message about Star Wars Return Of The Jedi 31 Action figure lot with weapons Vintage Kenner #281116093388
Sent Date: 14-Jun-13 09:31:42 AEST


Dear iabee,Hi,I have sent this lot of figures out via USPS First Class Registered mail. It has shipped today and I have added the tracking number. I unfortunately am not current in my knowledge of international shipping charges and they have evidentially increased since I last sent anything international. I unfortunately undercharged on shipping, as you paid $20.00 for shipping on this package. With it being international registered mail, with the weight and size, it ran $42.65 for shipping. That leaves me out $22.65 on this. I can send you a scan of the receipt from the post office if you wish.I am humbly requesting the $22.65 extra for shipping on this if you don't mind. I am not a professional seller, but a collector and can not really afford to be out the extra money Regardless, the package is on it's way, as I wanted to get this shipped being that I'm slightly behind. Your consideration on this is greatly appreciated. Thanks,Don

Now, to the point of all this. I at all times have stated that I would not take any action that would harm your reputation without confirmation from your peers. I stated that several times. I offered to post the photos here without mentioning your details and let the experts decide. You, on the other hand have delibereately taken a course of action to damage my personal reputation. I stated that if I was wrong I would humbly apologise, give you a positive rep and move on. What do you think are the chances of a reasonable outcome to this situation now that you've posted my personal information? Now I have no way of getting an unbiased response as you already have a relationship with this community. Why would a scammer offer to post a photo in this place? Why would a scammer agree to you invoicing me something that you have no legal right to do? Your eagerness to gain the moral high ground has completely changed the dynamics of this situation and now I am left with only one avenue of action.

If you can't work out how to use ebay properly then don't use it. Don't go back to people begging for more money when you fuck up. Your suggestion that I'm scamming you is laughable, a scammer would not agree to your pitiful begging requests. I was trying to work out a resolution to this situation that both parties would be comfortable, I apologised for how I initially reacted, but you had to take it further.

What a wonderful introduction into how this community operates.

With both sides of the story on paper can someone please explain to me how the fuck I am considered a scammer?

My postage miscalculation doesn't have anything to do with this except show that I do not know postage rates. I don't often ship stuff over to Australia and fucking hate international shipping as it bites me in the ass more often than not. With Ebay's allowance for any half wit to state they haven't received items and get eagerly refunded by Paypal, unless there is bullet proof tracking in place, I've found that Registered mail is the only option (this was recommended to me by Paypal a few years back in a lengthy conversation I had with them). On the other hand, postage rates for international have gone fucking crazy and I was out money on shipping. I'm not proud and if it was a few bucks I wouldn't care. It was $22.00 so I humbly asked if you were able to cover the extra I shelled out for shipping. You did agree, and I confess I absolutely forgot that we had that conversation. My inability to properly calculate postage has nothing to do with the situation at hand and the authenticity of the items. It just shows that I need to be better informed if I plan to sell internationally again. My fault completely.

So let's get to the topic at hand.. how you conveniently overlook how you stated you were going to "expose me, give me a negative rep on Ebay, and make a complaint against me on Paypal". Direct quote. I can copy and past the e-mail if you'd like. Hell, you started off with an "item not as described" message stating that all the weapons were reproductions and "what are you going to do about this?". Not "all" of the weapons were reproductions... actually none of them are, but you did quickly backtrack to complaining only about Lando's helmet. I pointed out in one e-mail, that I highly doubt that you bought a lot of 31 figures to get a fairly common figure. But that's also beside the point. There's better ways to deal with things, but instead you came at me with a claim that is often used by scammers trying to get "refunded" by Ebay/Paypal. I admit these actions put me on the defensive.

I only posted here to find out if anyone dealt with you before and could vouch for you not being a scammer. We are a tight community that watches out for each other and will run scammers out of town. Check out the many posts in the Watch Out section for evidence of this. I was hoping someone would state that you were a stand up guy. Honestly, I was worried that you were trying to screw me over, which I've experienced on Ebay before. I also do not respond well to threats to my credibility with this community or Ebay/Paypal.

In an effort to emulate the behavior and mannerisms of Shane Turgeon, who seems to have a knack for approaching things in a calmer, more productive fashion, I'm going to see if we can get this cleared up in a peaceful manner. Bickering back and forth is not good for you, me, or the community at large.

James has already done a service and linked to the auction. Let's both realize that maybe we reached hasty conclusions and got defensive without really taking time to solve this. I think your approach could have been better stated, and I admit my reaction should have been better. I want to let the community decide. If an apology is owed, I will be the first to make it. Otherwise we are just going to spend time taking useless swipes at each other.

Please post pics and let's see if we can get this cleared up.

Also, if you would like, I am more than willing to edit my original post to remove anything that you don't want in there.

Don
who welcomes the input of the community on this issue.

tristram wrote:

What do you think are the chances of a reasonable outcome to this situation now that you've posted my personal information? Now I have no way of getting an unbiased response as you already have a relationship with this community. Why would a scammer offer to post a photo in this place? Why would a scammer agree to you invoicing me something that you have no legal right to do? Your eagerness to gain the moral high ground has completely changed the dynamics of this situation and now I am left with only one avenue of action.

Trust me, regardless of any relationship I have with this community, other than my reputation, they will be the first ones to kick me in the ass if I'm wrong. I trust them and rely on them for this. They've outed many people in the community that they've had personal relationships with who turned out to be "scammers". Scott McDaniels and BillyBoy Rogers come to mind immediately. This is nowhere near that level of scam, but still... it's a great and very fair community. For what it's worth, if you collect Star Wars stuff, this group is probably the best group to be part of. Lots of great information and knowledgable people here.

tristram wrote:

I was trying to work out a resolution to this situation that both parties would be comfortable, I apologised for how I initially reacted, but you had to take it further.

For what it was worth, my posting here in the forum was done before your apology for how you initially approached the situation. I was on the defensive. I apologise for this being the route that I took before reading that last e-mail. I tried to give you a heads up that I had done this to let you know. Not trying to fan the flames of our heated discussion.

Don
trying to channel Shane's level headedness

Don't you kids make me turn this car around............


Okay it looks like this is going in the right direction, which is cooling off and discussing it. However I want to add a few words of wisdom and then will let you two do what you should (resolve this calmly)

Don - In all fairness it looks like Tristram was working with you on shipping and overall was cool until he felt these were repros. Keep in mind he bought them, then had to contact you a week later, then get asked to pay double the shipping. So if he thought after all that he got repros you can imagine he was over the tipping point.

Tristram - Don is a long time collector and has always been above board, listing stuff accurately and going out of his way to make sure his sales are properly described. Like in any real world situation, his longevity in the hobby and his upstanding reputation do what they should (make him a member that's respected). Keep in mind we are sadly in a collecting circle with an increasing amount of scammers. Since Don was already burned you need to see that he's got some right to be a little jaded.

So, what does this matter? Honestly not much to solving the problem but everything to let you each see the other side's version assuming I projected your feeling right.

Onto the issue at hand. Looking at them by the photos above, nothing jumps out at me as fake. However we pride ourselves as a site that does things thoroughly , I'll ask Tristram to post close ups of what you feel is a repro. We (AJ, myself) will give you our opinions. I'm comfortable enough to know that if it's a repro Don will do the right thing.

So lets see some close ups, tell us your concerns, and let's keep the gloves up and work through this.

Calm now, you both are...

You know what, I'm really sorry that this pathetic argument is being played out openly like this. I had no intention at all to let this issue get to this level of patheticness. Having said that the moment that Don decided to post my personal information on a public form and make some serious accusations on my character without proof is a game changer.
This guy has crossed the line, the issue of repro weapons is irrelevent compared to this. I will post one last thing to again try and clear my reputation. He accused me of threatenign to come here and accusing him as a scammer, that is not what I said, see the below quote:

I have no idea how you can even justify this in your mind when Lando's helmet is so obviously a fake. It doesn't even sit on his head properly.This is what I'm hoping to do. I'm going to post photos of them on imperial gunnery, yes I am a member as well. I'll let the community decide, if they agree with me I will expose you there, I'll also give you a neg rep on eBay, I'll make a complaint against you on eBay and I'll also do the same on PayPal.How do you explain Lando's helmet? As for trying to get more money out of me, you can forget that

Even from the very start when I was pretty angry I clearly stated that I would seek clarification from this community, a community I knew he was a big part of. I clearly stated that I would only take action if you agreed the items were fake. This is a fact and he's tried to bullshit the forum.

This guy has continued to post half truths throught this whole thread in an attemt to make himself look like the victim. The more I think about it the more I believe he tried to scam me with the postage and I wonder how many people have fallen for his line. Hook people in with a cheap price then do the begging story to get more money out of them. And of course go on the attack if things don't go your way.

These are the Lando helmet variants: http://www.imperialgunnery.com/helmetsandhoods.htm
no known reproductions exist.

Don's mistake for not checking postage costs (first class vs registered) - you should have the price on the box.
Your quote is fairly aggressive & threatening. I still think this can be worked out appropriately.

tristram wrote:

You know what, I'm really sorry that this pathetic argument is being played out openly like this. I had no intention at all to let this issue get to this level of patheticness. Having said that the moment that Don decided to post my personal information on a public form and make some serious accusations on my character without proof is a game changer.
This guy has crossed the line, the issue of repro weapons is irrelevent compared to this. I will post one last thing to again try and clear my reputation. He accused me of threatenign to come here and accusing him as a scammer, that is not what I said, see the below quote:

I have no idea how you can even justify this in your mind when Lando's helmet is so obviously a fake. It doesn't even sit on his head properly.This is what I'm hoping to do. I'm going to post photos of them on imperial gunnery, yes I am a member as well. I'll let the community decide, if they agree with me I will expose you there, I'll also give you a neg rep on eBay, I'll make a complaint against you on eBay and I'll also do the same on PayPal.How do you explain Lando's helmet? As for trying to get more money out of me, you can forget that

.

From my defensive position, it sounded like you were coming in here to smear my reputation. If that was not the intent of how you worded this, then I apologize. I only posted your name and ebay user ID. That was with intent to say.. who is this guy?, as I don't know you at all. I personally don't mind my name and ebay user ID being known by the community. Not a big deal to me, though I guess it is to others. I didn't think about it that way. I didn't view it as "personal" information as it wasn't like I was posting your address or phone number or something. But that is my view and once again, I apologize if that bothers you. I really was concerned about being scammed. The "item not as received" is the oldest, yet still most effective, ebay scam out there. So, yes, I was worried. Maybe not justifiably so, but I did not know that when this thing started.

tristram wrote:

Even from the very start when I was pretty angry I clearly stated that I would seek clarification from this community, a community I knew he was a big part of. I clearly stated that I would only take action if you agreed the items were fake. This is a fact and he's tried to bullshit the forum.
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No, your first statement ended in "what are you going to do about it". Your "action" that you were going to take if the items were "fake" was to ruin my reputation with the community and Ebay/Paypal. Not, let the community decide and let's work something out. So making threats at all is ok?

While I'm on the subject.. a 31 figure lot at the price of $140.00 (not taking the shipping snafu into account) is a little under $5.00 per figure. Given the range and some with weapons and some without, I think this is a pretty fair price per figure. I listed them as a "lot" as I didn't want to sell individually. Also, I'm not current on loose figure prices, but I thought it averaged out in the buyers favor. Especially as I know I paid more than $5.00 per figure on some of these back in 1994- 1997 when I was picking them up.

tristram wrote:

This guy has continued to post half truths throught this whole thread in an attemt to make himself look like the victim. The more I think about it the more I believe he tried to scam me with the postage and I wonder how many people have fallen for his line. Hook people in with a cheap price then do the begging story to get more money out of them. And of course go on the attack if things don't go your way.

I'm not saying victim. It started as "who the heck is this guy" and evolved into.. hey we both handled this wrong. Hence my apology. There is no scam on postage. I have the scan of the USPS receipt that I can send over that shows exact postage breakdown. You also see the postage cost on the box, figuring $12.00 for it to go Registered. That was my fault and I admitted it. I humbly asked about it after the box was sent and the tracking number was posted. It was agreed upon "receipt of the box", and frankly I forgot about it completely as I had moved on to other things. I'd like to say I'm wealthy enough that the miscalculated cost of postage doesn't hurt me, but it does. But that's my situation and my fault for mucking it up to begin with.

Look, I don't know how else I can say sorry for this getting to the point that it did. I'm trying to step back and work it out, but for that to happen, you have to realize we both made mistakes on how this was handled.

Don
not saying anyone is the victim here, just trying to find resolution.

I dont know either the buyer or the seller here, the buyer needs to post a photo of the weapons in question here, the fellas on here will give you an acurate opinion as to its authenticity.

One final thing.. and I usually don't go this route, but if you send the complete group of items back to me, in the condition that they were sent out to you, with all the accessories and weapons that I sent, then I will refund your money once I get them back.

It that's what it takes to put this to rest, then I'll do it.

Don
off to get some sleep

You just don't get it. I gave you a fair and reasonable solution, you then accused me of swapping the items to scam you and then came onto this public forum, posted my personal details and made libellous comments about my character. Even after I offered to cover your fucking out of pocket expenses of $20. This, to me is far worse than the eBay purchase. I don't give a fuck about whether Han in his fucking pockadot trench coat has a small piece plastic made in 1994 as opposed to some time in the fucking 80's, it pales into insignificance in comparison!!! Also, the fact that you continued to post bullshit to try to make yourself look like the victim fucking disgusts me. You've successfully turned a mildly pissed off individual into someone who is now in a state of full blown fucking rage. You could have easily difused the situation with your second post by apologising, deleting my personal details and working it out with pm's. But no, you had to have your fucking soapbox moment, assert your fucking authority over the dumb Aussie, how do you feel now? Proud of your fucking grandstanding?
I gave you several fucking opportunities to resolve it reasonably, you made the situation 10 times worse.

To add I had to pm a mod to have his post altered, even when he knew it pissed me off he did nothing.

Tristram I removed your last name off this thread before Don had his second post up. You have requested I delete this entire thread which I may do when both parties are happy.
I have offered my help, what is "did nothing"?

You accused Don of selling reproductions but were wrong. ( I have seen no evidence at all )

Don ballsed up with the postage costs, you have paid only what was quoted.

Don got grumpy & started a 'watch out'

What were your 'reasonable resolutions' options you gave to Don ?

James- who doesn't work Fridays so my weekend has officially started

Thank you for your assistance but the moment Don decided to post my personal details and made those accusations then he sealed his fate. FFS he created this thread in a folder described as 'Worried that you may have been scammed? Discuss fakes, recards, repros, scams, dodgy eBay sellers, suspect auctions and anything else that can help protect the community'. He topped it off ensuring there was no doubt in identifying me by posting both my personal details and my ebay account. Even if I changed my user name he made sure his accusation stuck. He has damaged my reputation in this community, in a community I was hoping to do business with.

Now I'm sure you guys have people you can go to to get legal advice. Why don't you guys go and check with them about the legal ramifications to the owner of the website because of his actions. Ask them about potential loss of income that I now face in this small community because of what he did. Before you think I'm going over the top just check it out. Serious Star Wars collectors get identified very easily all around the world due to sites like this.

The moment Don decided to take this course of action he sealed his fate, I have been consistent with this right from the very start. Fortunately due to my line of work I have good access to assistance, we also do a lot of work in the states, I've requested to have the laws tested in the state he lives in and where the server of this site is located.

If this thread is deleted and his account perma banned (via IP and personal details) then I'll probably leave it at that but there's still the issue of the fact that there were a minimum of 31 views of this thread before my personal details were removed. It's important to remember that there's been a precedence set in the states that the owners of these types of websites are liable for the content in them.

The ball is in your court

Okay I'm pulling the ripcord here.

Tristram - You're not responding to my request to post pictures so I can only assume you will continue to not post them. You're profanity laced tirade is also not something I like to see on TIG.

As for legality, you might want to consult your counsel again. The site has no liability and it's in the terms and conditions you agree to as a member and it's in the site disclaimer. This is a bulletin board system. Trying to serve us with legal action is akin to suing a phone company for a flyer stapled to one of its poles.

The only reason I am not locking this thread is that we have offered to look at the items in question and will give you a final opportunity to post pics of them so we can determine authenticity (to the best of our ability).

As to your request to delete the thread, there is no reason (legally or otherwise) to do so. I will remove it upon a judge’s order though of course, assuming he/she operates in the correct jurisdiction. To your request to ban another member, that only happens in extreme circumstances and is at my sole discretion.

If ANYONE comments beyond this point with ANYTHING not cordial and constructive you will be banned for 30 days. So please act accordingly. This is a very easy to resolve issue, lets get this figured out.

I have tried to back away and ease hostilities. I have admitted that maybe this was handled poorly from both sides. I have tried to be nice and reach amicable resolution. I'm met with requests for me to be banned from the forum based upon irritation of me "outing" the user. My perspective is that this does not reflect well on the requestor, and it raises my suspicions more. I'm willing to give benefit of doubt to anyone and admit I was wrong if warranted. But the actions taken and the continued hostile tone do not reassure me nor ease my suspicions about the intent of the original accusations.

The aspect of this sale regarding the shipping cost issue is irrelevant. My fault for miscalculating it to begin with. The extra amount was invoiced as per agreement with buyer, but ultimately hasn't been paid, so I don't know why it continues to be brought up. It has no bearing upon the actual items or the initial "item not as described" concerns. It has also been cancelled per buyers request.

Thus there are two issues here. Those are simply broken down into these two categories:

Are the weapons reproduction or not (as this was the original claim by the buyer).

Is it wrong that I outed the ebay user ID and the forum member's name in relation to my concerns that I was being scammed?


I stand by my statement that the weapons were not reproduction, and that seems to have been dropped as a concern, though there have been offers made by members here to authenticate them. This has slowly transistioned from buyers concern and statements that "all weapons are reproductions" to Lando's helmet is a reproduction to the mic stand for Sy Snootles is broken due to poor packing. (that is a possibility as it was frail to begin with and if I recall, it may have been glued back together at one point many years ago. Something I forgot about as I hadn't messed around with these in years). But that wasn't the original concern raised by the buyer.

The second issue at hand is the "outing" of the member and their ebay ID. As a community, do we not ask about ebay users and suspect buyers/sellers all the time? I've seen recent discussions about ebay users who have exhibited questionable behavior. Scroll down for the "bidfortuna/Marcus Deering" post. Or the "watch out for Ian Hamilton" post. I have no problems with people in the community knowing my full name and ebay user ID, as that is my reputation as both a buyer/seller and a member of the collecting community. (that helped with my recent Lili Ledy Rocket Fett auction, which was also discussed in the Watch Out section). Would we as a community not want to know about people that exhibit behavior that is suspect?  Making threats to "expose me" and give me a negative rep on Ebay/Paypal is suspect and hostile at best. I'm not fabricating his statements, nor am I changing facts to try to make myself look better or as a victim. I was legitimately concerned that I was being scammed. As I have stated, the "item not as described" trick is the oldest and most successful scam in Ebay history.

I think I had valid reason to be concerned given the continued hostile nature of the responses and request for banning.

Don
who has nothing to hide and stands by his reputation.

There is nothing wrong with putting an Ebay ID or name. We would of course censor address, phone number, etc.. Since people do business in various forums and Ebay it's reasonable to think an Ebay ID and real name might both be used and known equally. No worries there.

Are they repro is still yet to be determined. Tristram hasn't posted pics yet.

I would love for him to try and get anything further, I've already stated several times that I'm not concerned by the repros. This site may not be liable but he sure is.

Anyway, after a nights rest I've calmed down,iI'm not seeking anything, not even the broken mic stand that I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and presume it was damaged in transit.

I was angry because of posting my personal details in this folder and accusing me of being a scammer. The fact that a mod then replied and reinforced his opinion without even bothering to check the facts also greatly angered me. I hope anyone reading this understands why I was so angry, just imagine if it was your name instead. As for my tirade, I thought you'd have filters and I also tried to lace it with a bit of humour.

I've sent my offer of resolving the issue via Paypal, I never wanted it to be so public and when Don did not tell the whole story he got me angrier.
Check my profile out on eBay, not one neg rep

OK, just read the posts, I've been called a douchebag right after you stated a 30 day banning. Every time I try to resolve this pathetic mess someone else tries to get involved. I can only presume that KJ will be banned, unless of course that rule was only intended for me?

I requested to have this thread deleted very early on, I really wish that happened.

Catching up with this thread right now, no comment,..ok just one...

tristram wrote:

He has damaged my reputation in this community, in a community I was hoping to do business with.

For something to get damaged it needs to exist in the first place. Your current TIG reputation is indicated just below your avatar, so don't worry too much about it.  

You can however increase your reputation in different ways. Trying to sue us is probably not one of them.


Let's handle this as gentlemen from here on, in a respectful and constructive way.


Looking forward to the weapon pics, so we can have a proper look at them, and you can start building your reputation here.

Cheers

Marco

Tristram

The user who made that post did try to delete them immediately after seeing the post. I've removed them.

If you aren't going to post pictures, let us know and I will lock the thread.

I've already stated several times that I'm not interested anymore. It's not a lot of money and this whole experience has deflated my enjoyment in the hobby. I've also stated several times that I did not want this to be played out so publicly, even after all this I'm still trying to protect Don's reputation. As I've already told Aussiejames in a pm very early on that due to the way Don packed the items the mic stand was broken in transit. I didn't want that info to be on public display for everyone to see because it could have an effect on his future business. Woudl you buy from someone like that? I've asked several times for this thread to be deleted, the reasons are so it could play out behind closed doors with both reputations intact. By Don's actions that was never to be.

At all times I've acted in a way to be fair and reasonable, sure I was heated at first but I maintained to him I wouldn't do anything without expert opinion. Even now, look at his last post, he stated that he 'outed' me. 'Outed' me for what? Wanting to check if what I received was original? Offering to cover his out of pocket expenses? The reality is that my name now sits in a folder that is designed to warn people of this community of dodgey behaviour. Do you honestly believe that is fair?

I've sent Don a request via paypal to reslove the matter, I am not seeking any money from Don, I have never ever even suggested that I wanted that, even when Don offered for a full refund. But for some reason Don got it in his head that I was trying to get money out of him. Yet I'm still considered to be a scammer and Don 'outed' me. Let me tell you the reason why I'm wanting figures with originals. I have a full set (still missing blue snaggletooth and yak face which I'm wanting to buy from someone I can trust). I have two kids, 6 & 2. I'm slowly putting together extra 2 sets (with originals) for my kids so when they turn 21 I can give it to them. Star Wars has been a pretty big constant throughout my whole life and it's something I want my kids to enjoy as well. I just wanted to ensure they were originals.

I'll ask again, please delete this thread, if you really want to assist please delete this thread and I'll send the photos via a pm.

Dr Dengar wrote:

Catching up with this thread right now, no comment,..ok just one...

tristram wrote:

He has damaged my reputation in this community, in a community I was hoping to do business with.

For something to get damaged it needs to exist in the first place. Your current TIG reputation is indicated just below your avatar, so don't worry too much about it.  

You can however increase your reputation in different ways. Trying to sue us is probably not one of them.


Let's handle this as gentlemen from here on, in a respectful and constructive way.


Looking forward to the weapon pics, so we can have a proper look at them, and you can start building your reputation here.

Cheers

Marco

Point taken, stupid thing to say on my behalf. My frustrations with this thread is that it appears no one 'gets' why I'm so angry, read my previous post

tristram wrote:

As I've already told Aussiejames in a pm very early on that due to the way Don packed the items the mic stand was broken in transit. I didn't want that info to be on public display for everyone to see because it could have an effect on his future business. Woudl you buy from someone like that?

And I stated in an earlier post, plus when asked by AussieJames, plus in a PM to you, that the mic stand was possibly glued together years ago, could have been better packed, and because it is flimsy, could have broken in shipping. These figures have been in a box for years and I haven't looked at them in awhile, but I remember having a mic stand that was good and one that was glued at one point. Not sure which one ended up in this box as I don't have either anymore. If I'm wrong on something, I will definitely own up to it. I really try to be an honest seller.

tristram wrote:

At all times I've acted in a way to be fair and reasonable, sure I was heated at first but I maintained to him I wouldn't do anything without expert opinion. Even now, look at his last post, he stated that he 'outed' me. 'Outed' me for what? Wanting to check if what I received was original? Offering to cover his out of pocket expenses? The reality is that my name now sits in a folder that is designed to warn people of this community of dodgey behaviour. Do you honestly believe that is fair?

Not quite how it started off but that's where we ended up. By then I had already posted. Like I said in my PM to you, if given opportunity, I'd do things differently.

As far as your reputation, if we get this resolved, then your name sits in a folder stating that I was wrong about this, it was a mistake, and we got everything worked out. That will speak volumes.

tristram wrote:

I've sent Don a request via paypal to reslove the matter, I am not seeking any money from Don, I have never ever even suggested that I wanted that, even when Don offered for a full refund. But for some reason Don got it in his head that I was trying to get money out of him. Yet I'm still considered to be a scammer and Don 'outed' me.

Yes, I've complied with the request to resolve the matter. Now please close it out on your end.

Like I have stated many times, my fear was of "item not as received" scam. I am not the only person this has ever happened to and I have every right to be fearful of it. Regardless.. let's settle this, close it out, and put it to rest.

Don
more than hoping that I can very soon make a posting stating that this has all been cleared up and I was wrong.