Good discussion guys!

OK it hurts, but let's forget about my 'deformation' 'theory for a while here. Though, it still might be valid for the Yoda and Gam Guard, it does not explain the consistent differences in the Bib COOs so well.

So let me recap. What Ledy COOs we have found for Bib sofar?

COO no. 2

2A LEFT LEG: "(c) LFL 83" positioned further to the left / RIGHT LEG: "HONG KONG" with big "O" of "KONG"
2B LEFT LEG: "(c) LFL 83" positioned further to the left / RIGHT LEG: "HONG KONG" with normal "O" of "KONG"

COO no. 2A (left) and 2B (right)




COO no. 3

3A LEFT LEG: "(c) LFL 83" positioned further to the right / RIGHT LEG: "HONG KONG" with big "O" of "KONG"
3B LEFT LEG: "(c) LFL 83" positioned further to the right / RIGHT LEG: "HONG KONG" with normal "O" of "KONG"

COO no. 3A (left) and 3B (right)

like to add this one,my LL tie pilot withe hash the same coo as post
so not that different??so a legit coo variant?

Interesting stuff Starwizz!!

Your COO looks very similar to the one Jase posted before. Are they exactly the same?

"Difficult to tell, it is."

What do you think guys?

did't make an other pic,and it looks as the same as the one jase post.

looks same coo to me buddy

[quote]looks same coo to me buddy Very Happy

thx jase

aussiejames wrote:

aussiejames wrote:

'made in' & 'e in'

from old thread : http://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t869-lili-ledy-merged-topics?highlight=merged

Dr Dengar wrote:

Interesting stuff Starwizz!!

Your COO looks very similar to the one Jase posted before. Are they exactly the same?

"Difficult to tell, it is."

What do you think guys?

Great work fellas I would say yes and also the same as James on the right.

aussiejames wrote:

aussiejames wrote:

aussiejames wrote:

'made in' & 'e in'

from old thread : http://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t869-lili-ledy-merged-topics?highlight=merged

I'd also say James on the left Is the same as Marco's and mine on the right

Dr Dengar wrote:

TIE Fighter Pilot: Kenner (left), PBP (middle), Lili Ledy (right)


DIFFERENCES:

• The Lili Ledy TIE Fighter pilot has an unique COO according to the guide (no. 6 in the COO guide shown above). However the extent of the scar varies, meaning different letters may still be visible. In the pictures above a PBP TIE Fighter pliot (thx Javi!) was included cause he has a similar COO (no. 5).
  
• Compared to his Kenner brother, the LL TIE Fighter Pilot has:
  - glossy instead of matt black paint
  - reddish instead of orange buttons on the armour
  - bold face Imperial emblems on helmet and shoulders. The emblems on the shoulders are oriented differently (similar as is the case for the Ledy AT-ST driver)
  
  

I have two variants of this fig mate, I haven't got a PBP but I've included a MIHK in the pics

You can also see Dans in this link off james and I'll also bet that thats the same as mine on the Left.
http://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t869p105-lili-ledy-merged-topics?highlight=merged

Great posts guys.

So it seems there might be a limited number of different COOs for the TIE Pilot after all!!!

How many different we have now. :scratch:

Time for an overview!! And probably there are more out there!

Keep on the good Ledy research!!!

Marco you've done a great job with this thread mate and I appreciate the efforts you put to it.

These 3 tie pilots variants are pretty cool in my opinion and it would be great if other variant/ledy collectors could join in and see if there any more out there.

Dr Dengar wrote:

Great posts guys.

That is pic is super funny!!! ......



Great thread!!

great ledy research guys
a other tie pilot variant

Dr Dengar wrote:

So it seems there might be a limited number of different COOs for the TIE Pilot after all!!!

How many different we have now. :scratch:

Time for an overview!! And probably there are more out there!

I was curious and looked at the COOs of my Ledy TIE Fighters in some more detail and compared these to the pictures you posted in this thread. I am quite happy with the results:
In our joint effort we have already identified three sub COOs!!! In line with Wolff''s guide I labelled them 6A, 6B, 6C.







I wonder whether there are more sub COOs out there.


BTW: I also updated the entries of Boushh (also letters in HK helmets) and Bib Fortuna (different COOs) based upon the most recent discussions in this thread.

Good work Marco, you may want to edit Honk into Hong though

Joe_O wrote:

Good work Marco, you may want to edit Honk into Hong though

Good spot Joe, thanks!

I changed it.

hey great work once again marco buddy

just asking when the removable limb c3po will be descused

i have seen 3 coo's for the RL 3PO

was wondering if there was 3 coo's

i know the coo scar has been confermed

but i have seen the raised bar and a hong kong coo as well :?:

i allso read a bit of a descusion thread on here about the RL 3po and net

jase

Thanks for the kind words, Jase.

The RL C3PO is a very tough figure to identify. What makes things worse is that there are indeed more COOs. He gives me a headache.

Let's first deal with some other figures. After today's discussion I am very motivated to make an entry for a certain little blue droid.

Great Tie Pilot entry Marco, I've just had another look at the bib page and the whole thing is looking great

found this referance to ledy ccp com on the tig wepons guide i have seen 4 ledy ccp coms and none look like this
infact this is the first one that does look like this i have seen just wondering if this is a bad mold a bit miss shaped


CCP Com Link Original Variant 3 - Lili Ledy

Circles like nipples, Dark Grey, Unique to the Lili Ledy Could Car Pilot





these are the ones that i have seen as ledy 3 diferent pic below of 3 diferent coms






any one else got ledy ccp and could you up load pics of the com

thanks jase

TIG Reference Site:


Below are a few pics kindly provided by Ozio.

Lili Ledy (left)


Lili Ledy (left)


All Lili Ledy


Like the comm links in your pictures, the Ledy commlink has a V2 mould.

In a previous discussion (Ozio, Uli, Jay, Javi, Rob, and me) we more or less concluded that Ledy used the V2 mould to cast their comm links, though using a darker plastic than Kenner did.

Probably the V3 'nipple' mould is not a real mould. This type of comm link was produced when the comm links were removed from their mould too early after casting. Because the plastic was not hardened enough it was deformed ("nippled") because of the used physical force. LL's Quality control didn't matter and so that's how we ended up with the V3 comm links, which actually are V2. Other examples to support this theory are the deformed COOs of the Ledy Yoda and Gam Guard which you see sometimes.

Conclusion: Soft plastic gives hard nipples and the other way around, but it is still the same boob. Erh...well you get the picture.

cheers marco thats cleared that up then it's a deformed nipple like i thought

i don't know interduce a womans body part and every thing just gets messy if you know what i mean

Great info again Dr.denger thx

i just bought a gg that i believe is a ledy , except

this one has another coo then the two versions mentioned in this thread

basicly the copyright logo , is a raise circle

and the body paint , thats supposed to be a darker variation of green , is a dark grey

gonna some pics tomorow

http://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t3173-new-found-coo-variations-for-the-ledy-gamgaurd-and-white-chief-chirpa

COO guide for R2-D2: No. 4 and 5 are shared by Kenner and Lili Ledy.
In addition there is an unique COO no. 6 which was exclusively used for the Ledy R2-D2 (not yet indicated in the COO guide)


NOTE: In the pics below a Ledy R2-D2 was used having COO no. 5. In this COO the distance between "" and "G.M.F.G.I. 1977" is a bit larger compared to COO no. 4.
The comparisons were made with Kenner figures having COO no. 2 and COO no. 4. Two Kenner figures were included to show the differences among them (sticker, screw). But off course in this thread we focus on the unique differences between Kenner and Ledy.

R2-D2: Kenner COO no. 2 (left), Kenner COO no. 4 (middle), Lili Ledy COO no. 5 (right)


R2-D2: Kenner COO no. 2 (left), Kenner COO no. 4 (middle), Lili Ledy COO no. 5 (right)


R2-D2: Kenner COO no. 2 (left), Kenner COO no. 4 (middle), Lili Ledy COO no. 5 (right)


R2-D2: Kenner COO no. 2 (left), Kenner COO no. 4 (middle), Lili Ledy COO no. 5 (right)


R2-D2: Kenner COO no. 2 (left), Kenner COO no. 4 (middle), Lili Ledy COO no. 5 (right)


DIFFERENCES:

Compared to the Kenner figure, the Ledy R2-D2 has:
- a flat head screw underneath  
- different details on the sticker (see pictures)

• FRONT: A smaller circle in the little blue square at the bottom
  
• FRONT: Four instead of five horizontal lines in the top grill circle in the middle panel
  
• BACK: Bigger circle touching the top and bottom borders of the little blue square at the bottom.
  

VARIATIONS:

Many differences for the Ledy R2-D2 has been observed with respect to:

COO

• COO no. 4: Hong Kong,  "" at close distance to "G.M.F.G.I. 1977"
  
• COO no. 5: Hong Kong,  "" at further distance to "G.M.F.G.I. 1977"
  
• COO no. 6: no Country of Origin,  "" at close distance to "G.M.F.G.I. 1978"
  

PLASTIC

• Hard plastic body (confirmed for COO no. 5)
  
• Soft plastic body (confirmed for all three COOs)
  

Differences in COO and PLASTIC


STICKER

• Type A: Row of small white rectangulars on the front panel
  
• Type B: Row of small blue rectangulars on the front panel, grey colored elements  
  
• Type C: Row of small blue rectangulars on the front panel, no grey colored elements
  

.

Differences in STICKERS


DOME

• Glossy chrome, light blue panels / eyes
  
• Glossy chrome dome, dark blue panels / eyes
  
• Dull chrome (silver) dome, faint blue panels / eyes
  
• Dull chrome (silver) dome, light blue panels / eyes
  
• No chrome on dome, light blue panels / eyes (factory error?)
  

In theory by combining the listed differences you would end up with many different Ledy R2-D2 variations. At present a full overview of existing combinations is lacking.  

To give you an idea what is possible, an example is given for three different Ledy R2s.






You can read more about the Lili Ledy R2-D2 in his/her(?) TIG LL guide entry.

seem to have prety much hit the nail on the head there marco with the ledy r2

well done mate exelent job and well thought out with pics

nice one buddy