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PostSubject: New purchase that included Mecc Fett and others....   New purchase that included Mecc Fett and others.... I_icon_minitimeSun Dec 18, 2011 1:31 am

I know these guys have some play wear. I bought them from a classified add.
Curious what you think? I bought the figures (19 in all) just for the Mecc Fett, but then I started looking at the others once they were delivered. I did some research today and was hoping anyone with knowledge of these guys could give me their thoughts....
I read the Tie Fighter Pilot (PBP) is some what rare along with the Biker Scout "MACAO"....
Boba Fett (Meccano, no Coo)
Tie Fighter Pilot (#5 on COO guide/PBP, strange scars, see photo)
Biker Scout (#3 on COO guide, "MACAO"/Meccano)
Admiral Ackbar (#4 on COO guide, has scar, no COO) Not sure about this figure, would like to learn more.....
Luke Hoth (#5 on COO guide, no COO)
Thanks, -Steve


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PostSubject: Re: New purchase that included Mecc Fett and others....   New purchase that included Mecc Fett and others.... I_icon_minitimeSun Dec 18, 2011 1:55 am

It really is a great group of figures, congrats Smile :clap:
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Thanks AJ : )
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PostSubject: Re: New purchase that included Mecc Fett and others....   New purchase that included Mecc Fett and others.... I_icon_minitimeSun Dec 18, 2011 6:10 am

The emblems of the TIE-Pilot doesn´t look large so I guess it´s the PBP with AT-AT Driver emblems. Am I´m right?
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PostSubject: Re: New purchase that included Mecc Fett and others....   New purchase that included Mecc Fett and others.... I_icon_minitimeSun Dec 18, 2011 6:30 am

Might it be a Ledy TIE Fighter Pilot? The COO looks Ledy to me (COO #6C).


TIE Fighter Pilot: Kenner (left), PBP (middle), Lili Ledy (right)
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TIE Fighter Pilot: Kenner (left), PBP (middle), Lili Ledy (right)
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Steve: Does he have 'thick' emblems on the helmet?

BTW: Nice backdrop for a Bespin diorama!!


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PostSubject: Re: New purchase that included Mecc Fett and others....   New purchase that included Mecc Fett and others.... I_icon_minitimeSun Dec 18, 2011 6:46 am

pm sent!!

Besides the Luke Hoth these are all french figures IMO!

Tie, Boba and Ackbar are french only released figures! French Tie pilot has same emblms then PBP but more to the middle printed! Overall all three: Mec, PBP and LL have the SAME coo!!
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PostSubject: Re: New purchase that included Mecc Fett and others....   New purchase that included Mecc Fett and others.... I_icon_minitimeSun Dec 18, 2011 7:36 am

wbobafett wrote:


French Tie pilot has same emblms then PBP but more to the middle printed! Overall all three: Mec, PBP and LL have the SAME coo!!

Meaning the COO #6A, 6B, 6C can also be found on PBP Pilots?
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PostSubject: Re: New purchase that included Mecc Fett and others....   New purchase that included Mecc Fett and others.... I_icon_minitimeSun Dec 18, 2011 10:51 am

I guess that makes more sense the Tie Pilot was from Meccano since the majority in the lot are from there also. Does that make the Tie Fighter Pilot less rare then, because it may not be a PBP and may be a Meccano now? Or not really a difference. By the way his emblems are the standard PBP on the helmet, but are closer to the front of the helmet, not centered like the middle helmet emblem in the photo above.
Thanks for all the input, Steve
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PostSubject: Re: New purchase that included Mecc Fett and others....   New purchase that included Mecc Fett and others.... I_icon_minitimeSun Dec 18, 2011 11:06 am

Can you please post a picture of the emblems.
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PostSubject: Re: New purchase that included Mecc Fett and others....   New purchase that included Mecc Fett and others.... I_icon_minitimeSun Dec 18, 2011 11:16 am

mike-skywalker wrote:
Can you please post a picture of the emblems.

I agree with Mirco...more pics would be good, but on the other hand: they look large, coo matches and they look more centered to the middle of the helmet! I would be really surprized if this is not a MEC Tie!

PBP is rarer, especially with emblems still on IMO. I think Mirco can second that! We both searched a bit longer for our PBPs with emblems still on compared to the MEC. Or??
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mike-skywalker wrote:
The emblems of the TIE-Pilot doesn´t look large so I guess it´s the PBP with AT-AT Driver emblems. Am I´m right?

Missed this post! Sorry to all. Okay I was pretty sure these are large...now Im confused. Pics from the helmet would help!!
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Dr Dengar wrote:
wbobafett wrote:


French Tie pilot has same emblms then PBP but more to the middle printed! Overall all three: Mec, PBP and LL have the SAME coo!!

Meaning the COO #6A, 6B, 6C can also be found on PBP Pilots?

Thats like finding all Lando bespin scars on both, violett and blue trousers! Im pretty sure the coo is never unique to one of these but prooving this would mean finding 100s of each!!
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More photos of the Tie Fighter's helmet. Maybe this will help..... Also, Wolff, the Ackbar's Coo scar is rough to the touch. It is visible with a magnifying glass. It is not a carved out coo, but it certainly is not smooth either. It is rough to the touch.... -Steve

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Large emblems....Meccano..... 🐰
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PostSubject: Re: New purchase that included Mecc Fett and others....   New purchase that included Mecc Fett and others.... I_icon_minitimeSun Dec 18, 2011 12:22 pm

I learned something new today, about the Meccano TFP. Very Happy

Were the TFP steel moulds with the scarred out COOs used by PBP to produce their own figures in Spain?

If so, a scarred out COO which is shared by PBP and Ledy TFP figures, would indicate the same steel mould was used by both companies. Meaning;
- The companies used the same mould in sequential order, or
- One company produced TFP figures for the other

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Thanks for posting those pics. They don't seem to be Ledy emblems. Nice catch!!
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Yepp...that´s the Meccano Pilot. The emblems didn´t look that big on the first picture so I thought it was the AT-AT embl. TIE.

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Great info guys. Now I know he's Meccano.... Thanks for your help : )
Wolff, this is the best pic I can get that shows the rough texture where their is no Coo on Ackbar. Again, it's rough to the touch and you can see it using a magnifying glass, but does not have a deep scar and certainly is not smooth. Hope this helps...
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yup...meccano...100% (not prooven, but all examples of that rough deleted ackbar were found in France).

Mirco knows a bit better...he had a few in his hands! Wink
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Awesome! Thanks for your help... I really learned a lot. Thanks to everyone else also...
Never thought I'd like an Admiral Ackbar so much : )
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PostSubject: Re: New purchase that included Mecc Fett and others....   New purchase that included Mecc Fett and others.... I_icon_minitimeSun Dec 25, 2011 11:31 pm

So I have a few questions after talking to other collectors. I was told the Tie Fighter is Meccano. I think that is legit but what I don't understand is I heard from other collectors PBP figures (which I don't own any) smell differently because of the plastic used to mold them. Is this correct? If so, my Tie Fighter Pilot smells completely different from the other figures in this lot. I compared him to other Meccano figures and he smells completely different with a stronger scent. Is it possible some of the PBP figures were created, molded in Spain and painted in France (Meccano)? Any thoughts....
I am again attaching pics I took. Also, I added the Meccano Ackbar, with removed coo and has a rough leg where it was removed. My son got a new camera tonight and I think I was able to capture the blemish a little better : )
Thanks for any input and opinions, -Steve

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so Ackbar looks like number 5 ?
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but there are different versions with this leg marking?
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Nope AJ, he has the number 4 coo. Pictures to follow in a moment.... The coo is removed and rough where it was removed, not smooth.
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Wolff thought this was a Meccano Fett....
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Not Meccano Fett, but rather Meccano Ackbar : ) My apologies.... Long day.
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Apart from the COO difference, does this Mec Ackbar has any other differences?
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