I have them somewhat confused again. I had one from Darth that came in today so I put his next to the other that I believe to be real and they are here:








These are the 3 that I am sure at least 1 or 2 are repro. Can anyone help here:

I've reviewed the TIG info and I am still a bit confused. It appears as if the one farthest on the left (of the shot with 3) may be real also???????

In the image with 3 Gaderfii sticks (above), the two on the right are repro (they look like the 90's painted repros).
On the first image you posted with only two staffs, they both look like the same variation, and they look original to me, or at least molded variants (not sure if there are any molded repros out there)

It's not captured in the images you posted but one original has an epm on one flite, another has three very small raised dots on one flite vein. Those are two good tell-tale signs of originals if that helps. Those details can be seen in the tig guide too though I think.

mat8yr wrote:

In the image with 3 Gaderfii sticks (above), the two on the right are repro (they look like the 90's painted repros).
On the first image you posted with only two staffs, they both look like the same variation, and they look original to me, or at least molded variants (not sure if there are any molded repros out there)

It's not captured in the images you posted but one original has an epm on one flite, another has three very small raised dots on one flite vein. Those are two good tell-tale signs of originals if that helps. Those details can be seen in the tig guide too though I think.

Thanks I'll look for those marks. One of the 2 is from Darth Berzing so I know it's good. I'm pretty sure the image with 2 is good and the left one with three is good to go. I only need 3 do this is perfect. I'll do a scratch test on them all

Broke wrote:

mat8yr wrote:

In the image with 3 Gaderfii sticks (above), the two on the right are repro (they look like the 90's painted repros).
On the first image you posted with only two staffs, they both look like the same variation, and they look original to me, or at least molded variants (not sure if there are any molded repros out there)

It's not captured in the images you posted but one original has an epm on one flite, another has three very small raised dots on one flite vein. Those are two good tell-tale signs of originals if that helps. Those details can be seen in the tig guide too though I think.

Thanks I'll look for those marks. One of the 2 is from Darth Berzing so I know it's good. I'm pretty due the image with 2 is good and the left one with three is good to go. I only need 3 do this is perfect. I'll do a scratch test on them all

Honestly, you don't need to do a scratch test, it's really clear from the images you've posted.
On the pic with 3 staffs, I'm certain the left one is either a v1 or v3.
If you hold it so the pointy end points downward and faces toward your left side, then the flite on the top (ie. opposite side to the direction pointy end is pointing) on the side facing you should either have two raised dots (a v1) or an EPM (making it a v3).
I know none are v4's because the bands toward the flite end are narrow and rounded, rather than wider and flat.
Also none are v2's because of the plastic coloring.

There you go, so you are the proud owner of 2 fakes and 3 original staffs which are a mixture of v1 and/or v3's.

I had a focus on them a while ago and have owned at least 15+ Raiders so I've got a fair amount of experience with their accessories.


Actually come to think of it I just noticed the TIG guide doesn't actually point out the raised dots for the v1 as identification points - update needed guys?

Ya'll were right. There it was right on the fletch. Thanks guys. 1 real and 2 fake out of the 3 pack pic

Top ID work Matt, and you're right we need to update the info re the two raised dots. Will add to the to do list.

mat8yr wrote:

Actually come to think of it I just noticed the TIG guide doesn't actually point out the raised dots for the v1 as identification points - update needed guys?

mat8yr wrote:

Actually come to think of it I just noticed the TIG guide doesn't actually point out the raised dots for the v1 as identification points - update needed guys?

Matt, we may even need a pic of one. Paul has hit the thread but didn't say if we have a pic or not. If you have one handy maybe shoot it over to him via pm if you don't mind it going on the main site.

Long as I didn't sell a repro

For gaffis, spear,etc.. the best paint test is to use them like a pencil. Write your name on paper. If painted, youll see it like ink

Looking at them and comparing them to mine, The 2 on the right are wrong the far left looks good but the colour looks off. Which means nothing unless I see it for real as photos screw me up, being colour impaired has draw backs thats for sure.
I need to locate my guide its one of the best I have for id'ing items I dont even remember what its even called. Once I find it I will post the name and see I can find a copy on scribd I can use to get larger photos or I will scan all the ones there are and send them to the poeets that be .

DarthBerizing wrote:

Long as I didn't sell a repro

For gaffis, spear,etc.. the best paint test is to use them like a pencil. Write your name on paper. If painted, youll see it like ink

Yours is 100% real. I was testing the 3 I wasn't sure of. Yours I was sure of