REMARK: The black hood Klaatu has been confirmed with lighter brown boots (see pics above) and darker brown boots (see pic below)

Ledy Klaatus: White hood with lighter brown boots (left), Black hood with darker brown boots (right). Pic kindly provided by Atilla (Hutthunter)

Hi Marco and all Ledy collectors!

I made a new picture in which all my variants can be seen. It shows well, that the boots of the Black hood Klaatu variant are not the same as the color of the Kenner version, bot a lot darker even than those! I think it is interesting. Also, the 'skirt" and pouch are painted with this much darker brown, but on the sides (hardly can be seen, because of the 'fixing bars' of the AFA case). So basically the legs were painted differently, using this dark brown.

For comparison, guys:



From the front the differences are far not so significant...



BTW: I would gladly trade a LL vibroblade with a "B" on, for a vibroblade with an "A" on, just to have all the three - so far confirmed - versions of this weapon. Anyone? I have 4 Bs right now... all in excellent condition. I don't wanna have Straight A's! The best would be A's and B's!

May the Force be with U

I would love some information on the Stormtrooper. I saw from information from another site, but I just this one more. Plus the other site is in a German I believe.

Thanks, Joe

Hey Joe,

There is no entry for the Stormtrooper in this thread yet. I am still searching for a PBP (not a trilogo) Stormtrooper to make some side-by side pics: Ledy vs PBP Stormtrooper.

The official TIG guide has a very good entry for him, also discussing the two COO variants.

Hope that helps.

http://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/TIG-Lili-Ledy-Guide-Stormtrooper-h13.htm

Awesome, I think I have a few, but not sure. I will check it out.

Thanks, Joe

Hutthunter wrote:

As to green limbs Chewie and green snake Yoda: are you saying they are not versions? Simply quality or sunlight problems? So the limbs were not green when the wookiee figure had been made?

The green limbs Chewie, the green snake Yoda, are similar cases.

Threads discussing discolouration in more depth:

http://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t3134-boba-fett-loose-variant-in-depth-discussion-about-discoloration-and-yellowing?highlight=boba+fett

http://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t3187-green-limb-chewbacca-variation-or-degredation?highlight=green

Hutthunter wrote:

How do you like my Dengar collection, Dr Dengar?

Check your limelight!

curch wrote:

Awesome, I think I have a few, but not sure. I will check it out.

Ok let us know. Stormtroopers having the same COO as the Ledy but with a 'thinner' mouth piece and helmet band, are probably PBP.
Just in case....

I will add some pics today. Maybe the "pros" can judge

Dr Dengar wrote:

snaggletooth wrote:

Marco, I don't have a spare CCP mate but I do have a good camera if you let me know what you want.

edit.....that's the only Ledy CCP I have though mate, maybe some one else will see this and has a spare for you. If all else fails you can always borrow him.

Hi Scott, actually I meant the non Ledy CCP which has the same COO as his Ledy brother (the one with the pale yellow boots on your pic)

Hi Marco, I realised that mate but what I'm trying to say is, if you want me to take pictures I am happy to do so but I only have the one ledy CCP variant.

If your planning on a picture with all the ledy variants then I can't help. I can send you my CCP on loan though if you like, if no one here can help by offering you one that is.

Hi Scott,

Thank you for your offer to borrow me the non Ledy CCP.
Maybe an easier solution would be if you would make some pics against a blue background. I heard you have a good camera.

For the thread, we only need a few side-by-side shots of the Ledy CCP along his non Ledy COO brother:

• Front
  
• Back
  
• Sides
  
• Heads (close up)
  
• COO (close up)

I will picture the different Ledy CCP variants in a separate group shot.

Sound OK for you?

Hi Marco, I can do that for you no problem mate, will be tomorrow or Tuesday though. It will also give me the kick up the ass I need to take the pic of him included for my limelite.

Scott

That's great Scott, thank you!

Hutthunter wrote:

I have an original LL vibroblade with NO letter on it (NO A, NO B)! It is with my AFA 85 Klaatu (not the skiff guard, but the one with the furry skirt)!

Dr Dengar wrote:

- , there is also a dark grey Ledy vibroblade without a small "A" or "B". I have just changed the entries of Klaatu (2x), Weequay, and Lando Skiff accordingly (see pic below).

Dark grey ledy vibroblade without a small A or B .
First vibroblade on the left



I have noticed the LL blade it self and the top of the vibroblade are thicker than the kenner version.
Left four are ledy's and the other four are kenner.
The first vibroblade one the left is LL without a letter.



Left LEDY, right kenner


Ledy vibroblade without a letter is dark grey and the blade and top are also thicker than the kenner version
and maybe someone can confirm this

I have also one Ledy without letter! So yes...its indeed Ledy!

Good research Starwizz!

I have never noticed before that the Ledy vibroblade (V4 mould) has a thicker blade and top compared to Kenner.


Thanks for sharing!!

I will add this info to the entries.

EDIT: updated!

I have noticed the LL blade it self and the top of the vibroblade are thicker than the kenner version.
Left four are ledy's and the other four are kenner.
The first vibroblade one the left is LL without a letter.

Ledy vibroblade without a letter is dark grey and the blade and top are also thicker than the kenner version
and maybe someone can confirm this - written by Starwizz

I thought it is already known... But yes, I can confirm that: LL vibroblade is not only much darker, but also the 'headpart' of it
is much thicker, also the blade.
Also, thanks for confirming my info on the LL blade with no letter on it. IMO the main difference between a Trilogo, or newer Kenner vibroblade and a LL vibroblade is the thickness of the blade. Because the newer blade is also darker, but has a thin blade. The bottom parts are the same, but differ from the original or 'classic' light grey vibroblade.

May the 4th be with You!

wbobafett wrote:

I have also one Ledy without letter! So yes...its indeed Ledy!

THX wbobafett for the conformation

Dr Dengar wrote:

Good research Starwizz!

I have never noticed before that the Ledy vibroblade (V4 mould) has a thicker blade and top compared to Kenner.

Thanks for sharing!!

I will add this info to the entries.

THX. for the kind words Marco

starwizz wrote:

wbobafett wrote:

I have also one Ledy without letter! So yes...its indeed Ledy!

THX wbobafett for the conformation


THX.Marco for the kind words

Yes, good work indeed.
Just a brief addition to Starwizz's research:

Comparison of the three available variants by blade thickness







I have just now realized, that the LL vibroblade is actually much darker even than Version 2 (what I have seen on Trilogo and Kenner Canada cards). In terms of blade thickness there is a nice row. Because Version 2 is thicker than Version 1 (classic), but LEDY blade is thicker than Version 2. (Version 2 is a bit worn)

**************************************** BREAKING NEWS *************************************************

1. To access and discuss the different figures in an easier way, hyperlinks were made for all entries in this thread (on page 1).
   
   http://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t2135-lili-ledy-discussion-thread
   
   
   
2. Next figure will be Cloud Car Pilot

**************************************** BREAKING NEWS *************************************************

Dr Dengar wrote:

To access and discuss the different figures in an easier way, hyperlinks were made for all entries in this thread (on page 1).

http://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t2135-lili-ledy-discussion-thread

Excellent news! Thanks, Marco...

Sounds Great Marco, thanks

hi every body

i have found on the helmet of logray,
kenner helmet it's write 175080 04
LL helmet it's write 175080
and the helmet found , no writing

do you think it's a ledy??

All my three Ledy Logray hoods have "175080" inside, but off course that doesn't mean there weren't any Ledy hoods w/o numbers.

How about the other typical Ledy hood features (glossy paint, glossy plastic, rubbery)? Do they match with yours?


Logray

thanks for your answer

glossy white paint, yes
glossy black plastic , yes
rubbery yes
no number,


it's strange

The inner surface of your hood looks very rough to me, more like an artefact than factory made. Maybe that is the reason the numbers are not visible anymore.

Can you still see traces of numbers on the positions where they should be?

COO guide for 8D8: No. 2 is unique for Lili Ledy.


NOTE:

• The Ledy 8D8 has an unique COO (no. 2). It differs only from COO no.1 in its details as Lili Ledy casted 8D8's torso in harder plastic. In the pics below a comparison is made with a Kenner 8D8 having COO no. 1.
  

8D8: Lili Ledy on the right


8D8: Lili Ledy on the right


8D8: Lili Ledy on the right


8D8: Lili Ledy on the right


8D8: Lili Ledy on the right


8D8: Lili Ledy on the right



DIFFERENCES:
Compared to his Kenner counterpart, the Ledy 8D8 has:
- a torso which is much more detailed as it is cast in a harder plastic ("hard torso", like the Ledy Stormtrooper, Cloud Car Pilot, and hard torso R2D2 variant)
- darker yellow eyes
- darker brown chest emblems.
- dull instead of shiny metallic grill

REMARK: The brown chest emblems often have unpainted bolts. This is paint wear and not an exclusive Ledy characteristic.





LEDY VARIATIONS

• Different leg moulds
  

Like is the case for the Kenner figure, two types of moulds were used for each of the legs by Lili Ledy, with and without circles on the hip.



Source: Rebelscum.com

So variant collectors will be challenged to hunt for all four different possible combinations:
A) Left leg: Circle.         Right leg: Circle
B) Left leg: Circle.         Right leg: No circle
C) Left leg: No circle.     Right leg: Circle
D) Left leg: No circle.     Right leg: No circle

See pics below for Ledy type A and C variants.

Ledy 8D8 leg mould variants: Type C (left), Type A (right)


Ledy 8D8 leg mould variants: Type C (left), Type A (right)


Ledy 8D8 leg mould variants: Type C (left), Type A (right)



Still collecting 4 different variants is still beter than trying to collect all possible Ledy Biker Scouts variants.

Excellent work Marco!