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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   13 - THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1 - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeWed Mar 16, 2011 8:37 pm

I will agree that the top portion of "MADE IN HONG KONG" is more visible on my Ledy Zuckuss than both my China baggie and loose China Zuckuss.
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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   13 - THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1 - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 17, 2011 1:16 am

Dr Dengar wrote:

The COO scars of my two Ledy Zuckuss figures seem to be consistent with those posted before by Rob and Uli (scroll up a bit).

This 2 LL Zuckuss i have look very similar too:
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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   13 - THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1 - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 17, 2011 4:10 am

There may be some small differences but overall it appears partially visible and a key identifier with the Ledy Zuckus.

Any other business with Zuckus before we move on?
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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   13 - THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1 - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 17, 2011 10:29 am

What about the weapon? I can't tell them apart except that my loose China weapon has a small "break point".
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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   13 - THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1 - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 17, 2011 10:52 am

Good point Bill, can peeps add their Zuckus weapon photos here please Smile

(ill add mine to this post as soon as i have photographed them)
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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   13 - THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1 - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 17, 2011 3:46 pm


Thanks for posting those close up pics Ozio! I am happy to see that the COO of your Ledy Zuckuss figures correspond to the ones posted before by Rob, Uli and myself. You can clearly see that the "M" and "G" of "MADE IN HONG KONG" are still partly present. Thanks for confirming. Very Happy

Rob, Bill: good idea to focus on Zuckuss' gun now. I have a hard time to see differences between the Ledy and Kenner gun (are there any?).

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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   13 - THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1 - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 17, 2011 5:04 pm

Here are my China & Ledy Zuckuss’ (& guns)
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There are a few more photos in the webshots album. (It was a bit tricky to take decent photos through the China baggie!)

To me it looks as though they both have the same COO - both with the top part of the ‘G’ (& ‘M’) visible. The guns seem the same too…

Rog Smile
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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   13 - THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1 - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 17, 2011 5:28 pm

Thanks for posting Rog!!

Hmmmm so it seems that there is also a version of the China baggie COO where parts of the letters "MADE IN HONGKONG" are better visible compared to the other version. This COO looks similar to the COO on the Ledy figure, meaning this COO is not unique for Ledy? unsure

And I thought we had almost reached the end of the long Zuckuss tunnel. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   13 - THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1 - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 17, 2011 8:34 pm

Thanks for that info Rog and joining in Smile

(wants to do to Rog what Peter done to Yogi Bear) lol

I think the train in that tunnel is in reverse Marco Wink


Fear not, the China still has the Silver Belt and not the Dull Grey right?

For the guide we can make a note of not only using the COO Scar alone to identify the Ledy Zuckus as obviousy theres a china variant sharing a similar Scar (altho i would love a good macro side by side shot of the scars to see how close it was).

And we still need to check that ©️ a little more perhaps?

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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   13 - THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1 - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeSat Mar 19, 2011 8:52 am

The Admiral wrote:

I think the train in that tunnel is in reverse Marco Wink


Fear not, the China still has the Silver Belt and not the Dull Grey right?


Yup that is right! Till now we haven't seen a Ledy MOC with a clear silver belt. Sofar the MOC score is: 2 gray belts and 2 undefined belts (because of the flash light).
Carlos: can you pls post some pics of your MOC please w/o using a flash light? Please include a close-up of the riffle as well to back up the upcoming discussions.

I took pics of my Zuckuss rifles. The upper two were sold as Ledy by Mexican sellers. The other two came with Kenner figures, so 99% probability they are Kenner and not Ledy. I find it very hard to tell the differences here. The cross hatch pattern?

Zuckuss Rifles: Sold as Ledy
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Zuckuss Rifles: Sold as Ledy
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Zuckuss Rifles: Kenner
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Zuckuss Rifles: Kenner
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The guide does not help much at this moment.


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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   13 - THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1 - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeSat Mar 19, 2011 7:17 pm

Sorry guys, the casing on my figures makes it almost impossible to get a good shot. I am watching the thread and will not sell the Shiny silver belt Zuckuss. I still do not have enough evidence to request a refund from the AFA but I will keep watching.

Thanks!

PS - I sent Luis an email and he has only seen the dull silver belt zuckuss (ledy).

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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   13 - THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1 - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeSat Mar 19, 2011 7:40 pm

Hey Jason, no worries on the photos m8, were you told it was Ledy when you bought it then sent it for grading? So far its looking grim for the Silver Belt but who knows what still may turn up

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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   13 - THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1 - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeSat Mar 19, 2011 8:15 pm

Yep I was told it was ledy. I do believe that I bought him from a seller on the RS boards long ago. The other AFA 2 AFA 85's came from dependable sources. They are both dull grey belts. No hard feelings on the RS member as this does appear to be a tough figure to identify.

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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   13 - THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1 - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeSat Mar 19, 2011 8:22 pm

Yeh he is definately problematic haha hes held Marcos thread up a little already, luckily hes not an expensive figure to worry about
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PostSubject: Carded Lili Ledy Zuckuss   13 - THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1 - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 22, 2011 11:23 am

Hi all,

as requested by Marco, below you can see a few pics of a carded LL Zuckuss...I'm by no means a LL expert (I just got the Zuckuss in a trade although it has nothing to do with my focus), so I'm afraid I can't talk about grey/silver belts Wink but I can always of course post more pics (I made quite a few of them, they are at https://s20.photobucket.com/albums/b211/picmario/Star%20 Wars%20Figuras/ )or answer any question...I can however assure that the item is 100% genuine, has no touch-ups or has been tampered with, and has a 100% factory sealed bubble, so the figure inside is guaranteed to have been made in Mexico.

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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   13 - THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1 - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 22, 2011 11:31 am

Hi Picmario,

Many thanks for posting this lovely item and helping us in this thread Smile

This one also looks like the dull grey belt and not the shiny silver one, your link to other photos didnt work but that is ok, we can see the info we need from these photos.

Welcome to TIG Picmario Smile
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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   13 - THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1 - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 22, 2011 11:36 am

Ok fine,

btw this is the right link:

https://s20.photobucket.com/albums/b211/picmario/Star%20Wars%20Figuras/

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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   13 - THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1 - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 22, 2011 11:41 am

Thanks, that one works Smile

You should make a limelight here with your collection Picmario, you have some nice items m8
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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   13 - THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1 - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 22, 2011 3:04 pm

Hi Mario,

First of all a big welcome to TIG.

Great you reacted positively on my RS PM to post some pics of your Zuckuss MOC here!
Total MOC score now is: 3 gray belts and 2 undefined belts (because of the flash light).
I think I start to see the end of the tunnel again. Very Happy

Can you pls make some pics of Zuckuss' rifle as well (side view).
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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   13 - THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1 - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeWed Mar 23, 2011 4:47 am

Only pic I have this far is this one:

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which is kind of blurry, but I'll try to get better ones this evening Wink
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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   13 - THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1 - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeWed Mar 23, 2011 2:28 pm

Hi Mario, it would be great to have some close-up pics to see the details of the gun.
The devil is in the detail especially when discussing Ledy accessories. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   13 - THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1 - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeWed Mar 23, 2011 5:33 pm

My Ledy Zuckuss rifle is at the bottom of all four pic's.
The Ledy has a rougher mold,flat black color,my kenner rifle's are shiny black and have a more crisp,refind mould.
My Ledy has mould circle's like the one pictured in the TIG weapon guide V3.Check Wolff's pic's in the TIG weapon guide.
Also my Ledy rifle has an mould circle that none of my kenner's have.Check the last two pic's at were the toothpick is pointing to.
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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   13 - THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1 - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 24, 2011 1:28 am

Nice work Dan, ill check mine after work to see if it has that small circle in the same place Smile
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PostSubject: Carded Lili Ledy Zuckuss weapon    13 - THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1 - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 24, 2011 4:54 am

Just made two more pics of the carded LL, this is how the rifle looks like:

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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   13 - THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1 - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 24, 2011 5:11 am

Dan - great pictures!! My Kenner V2 (or V3) version also has the very small circle on the other side of the rifle - so you can't use this to identify a Ledy Zuckuss rifle.

Mario - also great pictures! The lower circle is complete - so it looks like the V2 version here imo:
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Can you make out if the circle goes in or comes out?

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