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JediTray Imperial Commander
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| Subject: Re: Han shot first! And other things that piss us off.... Mon May 24, 2010 5:48 am | |
| Jake Lloyd was absolute pants. But then again, the whole TPM movie was pants. Even decent actors like Liam Neeson and Ewan McCregor couldn't pull that one out of the fire. Even well established actors can't do much with a shit script and nonstop green screens! |
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| Subject: Re: Han shot first! And other things that piss us off.... Mon May 24, 2010 6:37 am | |
| - JediTray wrote:
You know, on a technical level, the space battle at the beginning of ROTS makes the Battle of Endor's space battle look like a cheap animatic. IT SHOULD NOT BE THIS WAY. They have the technology to not only completely redo the battle digitally, but to make it longer and more of an impact. They need to add B-Wings doing what they do best (taking out Star Destroyers), instead of just having them disappear from sight.
I disagree totally with this one Tray for me the ROTJ Battles are far more realistic than those shot in CGI on the ROTS. The ROTS opening battle looks at times like and xbox game! For me you cant beat the realism that was gained by the use of model ships on the ROTJ. Jay |
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JediTray Imperial Commander
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| Subject: Re: Han shot first! And other things that piss us off.... Mon May 24, 2010 7:40 am | |
| I totally agree about models. I know some pro builders and it is one of the truest artforms in the world. However, I don't agree that the battles in ROTJ were more realistic. The AT-ST's and speeder bikes are terrible and I was hoping they would be fixed. Not yet. My comment was from a technical standpoint, meaning that the technology is there now to improve on the space battles. It's been said that the B-Wings disappeared from the battle because the technology at the time was too limited. They could not achieve good enough shots because of the design of the ships and the blue screen methods available at the time. I say it's high time that all of that shit is fixed. The OT demands that respect. |
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hansole Imperial Commander
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| Subject: Re: Han shot first! And other things that piss us off.... Mon May 24, 2010 8:03 am | |
| Well I think ROTS is the most crapy movie in the saga. All battles most be over before they start to get thrilling. Just see the battle at the wookie home planet, order 66 (is just a lot of movie clips put together) and so on. The final battle obi agenst Anikan is greaht but the rest of the movie ohh dear a crapy movie.
now for the battle in ROTJ the models are greaht, and the battles are more thrilling, you get the fealing do they make it, will han blow up the imperiel bunker, will lando and weage blow up the death star and will luke surive the meating with Darth Vader and the emporer. All thinks ROTS is lacking to do. |
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JediTray Imperial Commander
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| Subject: Re: Han shot first! And other things that piss us off.... Tue May 25, 2010 9:54 pm | |
| As soon as I heard that Sebastian Shaw was going to be cut from the final scene of ROTJ, I made sure that I had my loose vintage Anakin, a packaged one, the Flashback Photo figure loose and packaged, and the Jedi Spirits Cinema Scene. I will never forget the way it is supposed to be, and replacing him with Hayden is unforgiveable. |
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JediTray Imperial Commander
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| Subject: Re: Han shot first! And other things that piss us off.... Wed Jun 02, 2010 2:47 am | |
| And let's not forget, although I'd like to....
Midichlorians. MidiFUCKINGchlorians.
There was absolutely NO need for this failed attempt to describe the Force, or how strong it is with someone. NONE.
Qui-Gon was supposed to be a Jedi Master (who got killed by a Sith APPRENTICE, utter bullshit), and all that was needed was the assurance from him that the Force was "strong with this boy (Anakin)." We, the audience, would have accepted that and understood. Inventing a creature in the blood to give it a "count", or a number to compare, was absolute rubbish.
Just think, if Qui-Gon and Darth Maul lived to the events of AOTC, we just might have had a chance to start caring about the characters. Qui-Gon should have met a more noble end on Geonosis with his fellow Jedi. Maul should have lived, only to be dispatched by Dooku/Tyranus in a brutal duel for Sidious' right hand. THAT might have been worth seeing.
Oh well, it's all in the can, and thank The Maker I don't have to ever watch it again. |
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vintageSWfan Force Addict
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| Subject: Re: Han shot first! And other things that piss us off.... Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:25 am | |
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JediTray Imperial Commander
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| Subject: Re: Han shot first! And other things that piss us off.... Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:06 pm | |
| I always thought he did that because he was putting out the fire from the laser blast. When Leia gets hit, the squib sets her jacket on fire. You can see him patting the small fire out. |
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vintageSWfan Force Addict
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| Subject: Re: Han shot first! And other things that piss us off.... Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:59 pm | |
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JediTray Imperial Commander
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| Subject: Re: Han shot first! And other things that piss us off.... Thu Jun 03, 2010 5:31 am | |
| I think Harrison was a bit more of a gentleman than that, but whatever. Besides, this thread is supposed to be about things that piss us off. |
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| Subject: Re: Han shot first! And other things that piss us off.... Thu Jun 03, 2010 8:53 am | |
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Chris_J Force Addict
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| Subject: Re: Han shot first! And other things that piss us off.... Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:16 am | |
| Well, to help Dan out, it pissed him off it wasn't him "putting out the fire" instead. |
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| Subject: Re: Han shot first! And other things that piss us off.... Thu Jun 03, 2010 5:13 pm | |
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JediTray Imperial Commander
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| Subject: Re: Han shot first! And other things that piss us off.... Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:32 am | |
| You know, I've been looking at Adywan's improvements to The Empire Strikes Back and they are absolutely incredible. He has come a long way. It's still so sad to me though, that George won't take the same kind of care with the OT. It's not like he doesn't have everything at his disposal to do it right! Sheesh.
Anyway, what else about any of these films pisses you guys off? What hasn't been fixed? What shouldn't have been fixed? |
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| Subject: Re: Han shot first! And other things that piss us off.... Fri Jun 04, 2010 5:48 am | |
| - JediTray wrote:
- You know, I've been looking at Adywan's improvements to The Empire Strikes Back and they are absolutely incredible. He has come a long way. It's still so sad to me though, that George won't take the same kind of care with the OT. It's not like he doesn't have everything at his disposal to do it right! Sheesh.
Anyway, what else about any of these films pisses you guys off? What hasn't been fixed? What shouldn't have been fixed? Imagine if George Lucas hired Adywan to revamp the OT and gave him access to lucasfilm to do it! Your right the improvements ive have seen to TESB so far by Adywan look awesome! |
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JediTray Imperial Commander
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| Subject: Re: Han shot first! And other things that piss us off.... Sat Jun 05, 2010 2:26 am | |
| Yeah. They are much better than the work on Star Wars Revisited, so maybe he will revisit the revisit. |
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JediTray Imperial Commander
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| Subject: Re: Han shot first! And other things that piss us off.... Sun Jun 20, 2010 1:23 am | |
| I got The Empire Strikes Back Audiophile Edition music score from originaltrilogy.com as a birthday present to myself.
Wow to the WOW.
It addressed all the problems with the official releases over the years and is an absolute joy to listen to.
I didn't know it existed until I was looking through the forums there and adding my "wish list" of things that folks want fixed for Adywan's TESB: Revisited. |
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Tiefighterboy Imperial Officer
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| Subject: Re: Han shot first! And other things that piss us off.... Sun Jun 20, 2010 11:52 am | |
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JediTray Imperial Commander
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| Subject: Re: Han shot first! And other things that piss us off.... Sun Jun 20, 2010 12:22 pm | |
| LOL, I'm sure he means the 1977-1983 Carrie's tits. |
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Tiefighterboy Imperial Officer
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JediTray Imperial Commander
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| Subject: Re: Han shot first! And other things that piss us off.... Sun Jun 20, 2010 8:04 pm | |
| That's an AFA case that I would be MORE than glad to crack open. |
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| Subject: Re: Han shot first! And other things that piss us off.... Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:07 am | |
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