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Dr Dengar

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PRUNE FACE

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COO guide for Prune Face
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NOTE: COO #1 is shared by Lili Ledy and Kenner.

COO #1

Prune Face COO #1: Kenner (left), Lili Ledy (middle), Lili Ledy (right).
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Prune Face COO #1: Kenner (left), Lili Ledy (middle), Lili Ledy (right).
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Prune Face COO #1: Kenner (left), Lili Ledy (middle), Lili Ledy (right).
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Prune Face COO #1: Kenner (left), Lili Ledy (right).
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DIFFERENCES:
Compared to his Kenner counterpart, the Ledy Prune Face has:
- A darker more pinkish skin on face and hands.
- A darker orange eye
- Darker green pants (when comparing to other Kenner figures which don’t have discolored pants like the one in the picture above Very Happy).
- Darker green boots and belt

PAINT VARIATIONS:

Small Variations:
The small paint differences between the Prune Face figures which can be seen in the picture below are due to small batch to batch variations in the Prune Face line:
- Orientation of the eye: Can differ among figures, compare the middle to the right figure (similar like observed for Kenner’s Hammerhead).
- Eye patch:  Can be matt or glossy, compare the middle figure (matt patch) to the right figure (glossy patch). This is typical for Ledy. The appearance of matt and glossy black paint is also observed for other LL figures like Biker Scout (arms, legs) General Madine (boots), AT-ST driver (belt, boots), Leia Endor (boots).

Prune Face COO #1: Kenner (left), Lili Ledy (middle), Lili Ledy (right).
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ACCESSORIES

RIFLE:
Prune Face came with a Western style V1 mould rifle. The mould is not unique for Ledy as it was also used by Kenner. The main difference is the colour of the used plastic: reddish brown (Lili Ledy) vs brown (Kenner).

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REMARK: In TIG’s reference guide the V3 mould (see below) has been uniquely linked to Lili Ledy. This is wrong IMO, and should be updated.
EDIT: Confirmed by OZIO. Very Happy

V3 mould rifle. Having mould circles on the opposite site compared to the V1 mould.
Source: http://www.imperialgunnery.com/theriflessection.htm

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CLOAK:
The Ledy Prune Face carries a cloak which is made from a thicker felt like fabric compared to Kenner’s. Therefore the Ledy cloak does not bend as easily as the Kenner cape does
There are two cloak variants differing in colour and cross hatch pattern of the used fabric (see pic below).

Prune Face cloaks: Kenner (left), Lili Ledy variant 1 (middle), Lili Ledy variant 2 (right).
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(Prune Face at 6:48).
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KLAATU SKIFF GUARD
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COO guide for Klaatu Skiff Guard
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NOTE: COO #1 and #2 differ only in very subtle ways with respect to the exact position of the symbols in “©️ L.F.L. 1983”. To be honest the differences are that subtle, I don’t even see them Very Happy. Wolff? Anyway, clearly these COOs belong to the same COO family and do not indicate any mould differences.
IMPORTANT: The Lili Ledy Klaatu Skiff Guard appears with COO #2 (and COO #1), which were both used by Kenner as well.

COO #2 (≈ COO #1)

Klaatu Skiff Guard: Kenner COO #1 (left), Lili Ledy COO #2 black hood (middle), Lili Ledy COO #2 unpainted hood (right).
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Klaatu Skiff Guard: Kenner COO #1 (left), Lili Ledy COO #2 black hood (middle), Lili Ledy COO #2 unpainted hood (right).
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Klaatu Skiff Guard: Kenner COO #1 (left), Lili Ledy COO #2 black hood (middle), Lili Ledy COO #2 unpainted hood (right).
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Klaatu Skiff Guard: Kenner COO #1 (left), Lili Ledy COO #2 black hood (middle), Lili Ledy COO #2 unpainted hood (right).
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Klaatu Skiff Guard: Kenner COO #1 (left), Lili Ledy COO #2 (right).
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DIFFERENCES:
Compared to his Kenner counterpart, the Ledy Klaatu Skiff Guard has:
- A lighter brown collar plate, belt, and pouch
- Lighter brown boots (though they can also be darker, see further below)
- A less tanned helmet
- A darker green skin on face and hands


PAINT VARIATIONS:

Major Variations:
The LL Klaatu Skiff Guard has two major variations, with either a black or unpainted ("white") hood. The Kenner version has a brown hood (see the pics above).

Small Variations:
The black hood Klaatu has been confirmed with lighter brown boots (see pics above) and darker brown boots (see pic below)  


AFA graded Lili Ledy Klaatus: Unpainted (“white”) hood with light brown boots (left), Black hood with dark brown boots (right).
Pic made by Hutthunter.

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ACCESSORIES

VIBROBLADE:
The LL Klaatu Skiff Guard carries a darker grey vibroblade which is made from a different mould compared to its Kenner counterpart. The Ledy vibroblade has a thicker blade and top compared to Kenner.
In addition the Ledy vibroblade can have a small "A" or "B", but also appears w/o any letter.

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(Klaatu Skiff Guard at 6:06.)
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ArtooDetour

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SY SNOOTLES and the REBO BAND
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SY SNOOTLES
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COO guide for SY SNOOTLES
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Note: COO #1 and 2 have only slight differences and are from the same family and therefore can both exist on ledy figures.  The only difference between the two is the spacing on the left leg.

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From left to right: COO #1 (Lili Ledy), COO #1 (from Spain), COO #1 (from UK), COO #1 (from UK).

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From left to right: COO #1 (Lili Ledy), COO #1 (from Spain), COO #1 (from UK), COO #1 (from UK).

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From left to right: COO #1 (Lili Ledy), COO #1 (from UK)

DIFFERENCES:
Compared to his Kenner counterpart, the Ledy SY Snootles has:
* Pale Yellow Skin
* Pale blue spots
* Unique spray mask for spots
* Cream head feather
* Round Eyes

ACCESSORIES

SKIRT:
The LL SY SNOOTLES wears a skirt the same as kenner.  The ledy skirt has been confirmed to have the letter “A” on the front inside of it. Other letters may exist??  The skirt plastic feels stiffer than the kenner counter part and appears slightly lighter brown (though this may be batch to batch difference in plastic as it is very subtle)

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From left to right: COO #1 (Lili Ledy), COO #1 (Silver from UK).

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Centre: COO #1 (Lili Ledy).


SY SNOOTLES Mic

The ledy Sy Snootles uses a mic the same as kenner figures.  The ledy mic is silver in color, has 2 mold circles on the left aside and the top mold circle pushes out.

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From left to right: COO #1 (Lili Ledy), COO #1 (Black from Spain), COO #1 (from UK), COO #1 (from UK).

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From left to right: COO #1 (Lili Ledy), COO #1 (Black from Spain), COO #1 (from UK), COO #1 (from UK).







DROOPY MCCOOL
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COO guide for Droopy McCool
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From left to right: COO #1 (Lili Ledy), COO #1 (from UK), COO #1 (from Spain).

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From left to right: COO #1 (Lili Ledy), COO #1 (from UK).

DIFFERENCES:
Compared to his Kenner counterpart, the Ledy Droopy has:
* Darker Flesh
* Darker Pants
* Darker Nose

ACCESSORIES

FLUTE:
The LL Droopy McCool carries a flute the same as kenner.  The flute is black in color.

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From left to right: COO #1 (Lili Ledy), COO #1 (Silver from Spain), COO #1 (from UK).

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From left to right: COO #1 (Lili Ledy), COO #1 (Silver from Spain), COO #1 (from UK).



Droopy McCool Mic

The ledy Droopy McCool uses a mic the same as kenner figures.  The ledy mic is silver in color, has a mold circle above the base, has a small tip.

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From left to right: COO #1 (Lili Ledy), COO #1 (Black from Spain), COO #1 (from UK), COO #1 (from UK).

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From left to right: COO #1 (Lili Ledy), COO #1 (Black from Spain), COO #1 (from UK), COO #1 (from UK).

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From left to right: COO #1 (Lili Ledy), COO #1 (Black from Spain), COO #1 (from UK), COO #1 (from UK).

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From left to right: COO #1 (Lili Ledy), COO #1 (Black from Spain), COO #1 (from UK).[/quote]






MAX REBO
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COO guide for Max Rebo
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From left to right: COO #1 (Lili Ledy), COO #1 (from UK).

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From left to right: COO #1 (Lili Ledy), COO #1 (from UK).

DIFFERENCES:
Compared to his Kenner counterpart, the Ledy Max has:
* Darker Blue, limbs don't fade
* Darker Pink eye detail
* Bigger pupils

ACCESSORIES

PIANO:

The Ledy Max comes with a piano the same as its kenner counterpart.  The ledy piano shows the following characteristics:
* BRONZE Detail around sides
* DARK Grey
* 4 Injector Pin Marks on underside
* NO COO
* MOULD DEFECT inside Max's hole
* ROUGH dimples on paino arm (x6)
* TWO injector pin mark under arm
* THIN outer edge under arm
* WIDE ribs on backrest

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From left to right: COO #1 (Lili Ledy), COO #1 (from Spain), COO #1 (from UK), COO #2 (from UK).

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From left to right: COO #1 (Lili Ledy), COO #2 (from UK).

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From left to right: COO #1 (Lili Ledy), COO #1 (from Spain).

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From left to right: COO #1 (Lili Ledy).

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From left to right: COO #2 (from Spain).

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From left to right: COO #1 (Lili Ledy).

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From left to right: COO #1 (Lili Ledy), COO #2 (from UK).

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From left to right: COO #1 (Lili Ledy), COO #2 (from UK).

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From left to right: COO #1 (Lili Ledy), COO #2 (from UK).

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To echo Jason this is a cool thread, great work guys and some good photo comparisons.

Adding Stef's Lili Ledy Rebo band guide here.
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Dr Dengar

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THE EMPEROR
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COO guide for The Emperor
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NOTE: COO #2, #3, and #4 differ only in very subtle ways with respect to the exact position of the symbols in “© LFL 1984”. They therefore belong to the same COO family and do not indicate any mould differences. All Lili Ledy Emperors in my collection have COO #4 (‘’©” is at the same level as “LFL”).
Maybe Lili Ledy also used the steelmoulds for COO #2 (no space between “©” and “L”) and COO #3 (“©” is upshifted relative to “LFL”) So in case you have a Ledy Emperor with COO #2 or #3, please post pics in this thread.


IMPORTANT:
COO #4 is not unique to Lili Ledy, it was also used by Kenner!! Only the figures which were released on MIM cards have an unique COO (you can read more about this in the Introduction on the first page of this thread).

COO #4

Emperor: Kenner COO #1 (left), Lili Ledy COO #4 (middle), Lili Ledy COO #4 (right).
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Emperor: Kenner COO #1 (left), Lili Ledy COO #4 (middle), Lili Ledy COO #4 (right).
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Emperor: Kenner COO #1 (left), Lili Ledy COO #4 (right).
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Lili Ledy Emperors with COO #4 (same two figures as in the pictures shown above).
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DIFFERENCES:
Compared to his Kenner counterpart, the Ledy Emperor has:
- A darker grey cloak
- Glossy in stead of matt white paint on face and hands

The COO #4 on the Ledy Emperor looks a bit worn with less details. For instance the ‘©’ is more like a big dot and you can hardly recognize the “c” anymore. Similar worn or weathered moulds have also been observed for the Lili Ledy Yoda and Gamorrean Guard. It might indicate that Lili Ledy used old steel moulds which were used for full scale production in the Far East before. It might also be an artifact during casting of the figures due to different processing conditions and/or  a different composition of the plastics used by Lili Ledy.

PAINT VARIATIONS:

Small Variations:
The small paint differences between the different Emperor figures (bright or pale yellow eyes, size of the pupils) which can be seen in the pictures below are due to small batch to batch variations in the Emperor line.

Emperor: Kenner COO #1 (left), Lili Ledy COO #4 (middle), Lili Ledy COO #4 (right).
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ACCESSORIES

STAFF:
The LL Emperor carries a black Chief Chirpa staff which has a different mould compared to its Kenner counterpart. The stick has a small "L".

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ADMIRAL ACKBAR
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COO guide for Admiral Ackbar
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NOTE: COO #1 is shared by Lili Ledy and Kenner.

COO #1

Admiral Ackbar COO#1: Kenner (left), Lili Ledy (right).
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Admiral Ackbar COO#1: Kenner (left), Lili Ledy (right).
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Admiral Ackbar COO#1: Kenner (left), Lili Ledy (right).
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Admiral Ackbar COO#1: Kenner (left), Lili Ledy (right).
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Admiral Ackbar COO#1: Kenner (left), Lili Ledy (right).
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Admiral Ackbar COO#1: Kenner (left), Lili Ledy (right).
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Admiral Ackbar COO#1: Kenner (left), Lili Ledy (right).
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Admiral Ackbar COO#1: Kenner (left), Lili Ledy (right).
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Admiral Ackbar COO#1: Kenner (left), Lili Ledy (right).
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DIFFERENCES:
Compared to his Kenner counterpart, the Ledy Ackbar has:
- Reddish brown in stead of black pupils
- A paler red and more glossy head
- Brighter yellow eyes *
- 'Rusty' darker red claws *
- Brighter yellow stripes down the pants *

*) Also Kenner figures can have these traits, see for example Figure 4 in the pics below.

PAINT VARIATIONS:

Small Variations:
The small paint differences between the two (2 & 3) Ackbar figures (size of the pupil, exact colour of the reddish brown pupil) which can be seen in the pictures below are due to small batch to batch variations in the Ackbar line.
Two Kenner figures (1 & 4) were also included for comparison. Note that figure 4 has similar traits as a Ledy Ackbar (brighter yellow eyes, darker red claws, bright yellow strips down the pants) but is considered a Kenner figure nonetheless as he lacks the reddish brown pupils and the paler red head. See also the discussion starting on page 53 of this thread.

Comparison between Ackbar figures with COO #1. From left to right: 1 (Kenner), 2 (Ledy), 3(Ledy), 4 (Kenner).
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Comparison between Ackbar figures with COO #1. From left to right: 1 (Kenner), 2 (Ledy), 3(Ledy), 4 (Kenner).
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Comparison between Ackbar figures with COO #1. From left to right: 1 (Kenner), 2 (Ledy), 3(Ledy), 4 (Kenner).
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Comparison between Ackbar figures with COO #1. Counterclockwise starting at the top: 1 (Kenner), 2 (Ledy), 3 (Ledy), 4 (Kenner).
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Comparison between Ackbar figures with COO #1. Counterclockwise starting at the top: 1 (Kenner), 2 (Ledy), 3 (Ledy), 4 (Kenner).
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ACCESSORIES

STAFF:

The LL Ackbar carries a staff which is made from the same mould as its Kenner counterpart. The only difference I observed is that the plastic of the Ledy staff seems to be matt.  

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